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Chuck asked in News & EventsCurrent Events · 1 month ago

vaccine adoration has been taken to extremes. Is it time for a dose/shot of reality?

 The “Cutter Incident” in 1955 involving the Salk polio vaccine resulted in 40,000 cases of polio resulting in 51 cases of permanent paralysis and five deaths among vaccinated individuals, and 113 cases of paralysis and five deaths among contacts of vaccinated individuals.

In 1976 Approximately 45 million people were vaccinated in 10 weeks with what became known as the “swine flu vaccine.”  The vaccine was estimated to have caused approximately one Guillain-Barré syndrome case per 100,000 persons vaccinated, resulting in 53 deaths.

When vaccines kill children it is especially horrifying.

Just tell how safe vaccines are to the families of the 212 children under the age of three who have died since 1990 after receiving the measles-mumps-rubella vaccine, according to the government’s Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System. The government has paid out $2.8 billion in compensation for injuries and deaths caused by a product it and the media call absolutely safe. 

One death, even a necessary one in the cause of justice, is as significant and horrifying as a thousand deaths when it is individualized. If you don’t think the number of vaccine-related injuries and deaths are important, just go tell that to the parent of a child lost to a vaccine. (from an article be Richard Moore, Lakeland Times, Mar/3/2015)

Saying covid vaccines are "safe and effective" is irresponsible, and criminal. If you are thinking of vaxxing your children, please remember there is risk and danger of death.


Anonymous...Your logic is senseless. if you can't accept the dark side of vaccines then you cannot accept reality. 

Update 2:

? Questioning reality will not make it go away. I am just giving you a full picture of vaccines, not just the pretty one presented to you by ALL the media. You are the one lying here, and you deny the truth I presented to you from history. Would you really be ok with your child dying from a vaccine they never needed in the first place? Stop lying to yourself.

Update 3:

Lab Guy...If you repeat the lies of liars that makes you a liar. Stop lying to yourself and others. Vaccines are at best unnecessary, and at worst, killers. Your kids/our kids are much more valuable than you make out. You would not be singing the praises of the MMR vaccine if your child was one of its victims. You should be ashamed of yourself! 

Update 4:

Top Press....You are making little sense. Do you even make sense to yourself? When people vaccinate, they do so because they are told to, and because they have been told that these things are necessary and good. They are inventions of "science so-called." People that take them are part of the deceived, and because of that deception are left to bear with the consequences of their choice. Losing a child to this deception would be disastrous, causing the worst of sorrows and regret.

Update 5:

qspeechc...If you see the lies and censorship I hope you understand this atmosphere is not the creation of men who just want to get rich. All the masters already are! The sheer hate that the controllers exhibit is evil beyond measure. This kind of wickedness is the work of Satan who's Spirit works in his children. This world is dying and its ruler Satan is not happy. He knows the end is near, and he is angry. He will destroy as many as he can deceive, both their flesh, and their soul.

Update 6:

qspeech.But with Jesus, our God and King, no-one can take us away. With Jesus, we have the victory! 18 We know that whosoever is born of God sinneth not,... and that wicked one toucheth him not.19 And we know that we are of God, and the whole world lieth in wickedness. 20 And we know that the Son of God is come and hath given us an understanding, that we may know Him that is true; and we are in Him that is true, even in His Son Jesus Christ.This is the true God and Eternal Life. (1 John 5:18-20)

Update 7:

iteHenry...You are being deceived. You are lauding the very men who hate you but parade as lovers of the world. the world is embroiled in a GREAT DECEPTION, and if you follow the world, your are one of the victims. Please stop lying for the liars of the world. Jesus said...for this cause came I into the world, that I should bear witness unto the truth. Every one that is of the truth heareth My voice.” If you are listening to the world, you can't hear God; you are left with hearing lies.

11 Answers

  • Anonymous
    1 month ago
  • 1 month ago

    You aren't handling truth when it come to take the chance of assessment in connection with the advantage threat proportion. The number of individuals pass away in vehicle mishaps in relation to riding steeds? The number of individuals pass away riding steeds in relation to just walking?

    One takes the threat of inoculation vs the danger and also damages that the infection has created and also in no means does the danger outweigh the benefit. The numbers pale in relation to the numbers triggered by viruses.

  • 1 month ago

    It's amusing to see these pro-vax conspiracy theorists suddenly talking about probability and risk when it comes a vaccine developed in record time, but refused to talk about it for covid-19 and lockdowns. (Nomally vaccines take at least seven years to develop and test, this one was a matter of months).

    The IFR for covid-19 is 0.2% or lower, so substantially similar to the flu at 0.15%, and your chances of catching it are not high to begin with.

    So far only about 0.03% of the world's population has died from covid-19.

    The average age of people dying with covid-19 on the death certificate is the same or higher than life expectancy, and on average they have over two other serious health conditions.

    Significantly more people die every year from air pollution than from covid-19. Should we stop all human activity until we get zero air-pollution deaths? Should we all walk around in biohazard suits because of air pollution?

    I'm not saying elderly people don't matter, I'm saying where has been the sense of proportion? Does the facts of this virus merit destroying the economy, mental health, childhood development, delayed treatments leading to a much larger number of deaths, substance abuse, and on and on. Does it merit regularly vaccinating the entire population several times a year for the rest of eternity with a vaccine developed in record time? Where is the proportionality? Why did we not have this discussion a year ago?

    I would go further and present a study that was done on this covid-19 vaccine, the vaccinated versus the unvaccinated, but every time I do it gets instantly deleted. They keep shouting at us "follow the science!", but when you post actual scientific research they delete it if doesn't suit their agenda. The censorship around topics relating to covid-19 has been unprecedented, famous scientist are not allowed to share their work in the media or social media. Like the one anonymous poster said, even Zuckerberg is concerned, but he'll ban *you* from expressing any concern. And people aren't suspicious about this in the least?

  • Anonymous
    1 month ago

    Just wait until this so called Covid vaccine starts causing cancer. It's not a vaccine it's gene therapy and alters your DNA.

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  • 1 month ago

    If you can only count the number of deaths to three places, then the vaccines are an unbridled success. When we talk about pandemic disease, we aren't talking about a couple hundred lives, we're talking about millions of lives and, as the lockdown shows, trillions of dollars of productivity that get saved when people don't die from infections.

    The loss of life is regrettable, but if we outlawed anesthetic every time there was an accident, then the other 99% of us would be in for a world of pain.

    Also, given your updates, you seem to be pushing the notion of unnecessary or even ineffective vaccines. The fact that we have, in our time, abolished diseases off the face of the Earth is proof to the contrary. The eradication of smallpox is perhaps one of the most amazing achievements in the history of mankind.

    I can try and understand your apprehension. But you cannot call the support being shown for these vaccines criminal, given what they have done for humanity and what they are showing themselves capable of even now.

  • Anonymous
    1 month ago

    Very true!

    It should be said upfront NO vaccine is 100% safe for 100% of the population! Caveat emptor! Buyer beware!

    Contamination. Use by date! Storage temperature. Preparation. All play their part!

    Incidentally Elon Musk won't be partaking!

    Mark Zuckerberg got captured on a video - saying he won't be getting the vaccine, since the long term effects of the gene editing technology used to produce it, have yet to be evaluated.

    But this video cannot be shown on Facebook!

    Since the video breaks the terms of Facebook! 

    Only videos slobbering sycophantically over the vaccine are  permissible!

    Imagine a factual testimony before the U.S. house airbrushed, from YouTube! What a hoot!

    When the powers that be get that jittery perhaps they should reflect WHY when demanded by both manufacturers and distributors legal indemnity, they granted it, so obligingly!

    Not being liable what companies sell, doesn't exactly engender TRUST. 

    Taxpayers fund their research!

    Patents grant them kerching uncontested!

    Mind you many of these companies don't exactly have a reputable reputation overseas!

    These megaliths also seem strangely adverse to patent free competition!

    Source(s): "vaccine…It would be great if we could take away some lessons from the experience of vaccine development in this crisis and get away from the antiquated patent monopoly mechanism for financing research.” Even less well-known is that the decision was taken at the behest of Microsoft co-founder Bill Gates. “We went to Oxford and said, ‘Hey, you’re doing brilliant work,’” Gates said, “But…you really need to team up.” The 65-year-old tech tycoon is a strong proponent of patents and spends much of his time shaping global health policy"
  • Anonymous
    1 month ago

    Statistics on reported road casualties in Great Britain for the year ending June 2019 shows there were:

    1,870 reported road deaths

    a slight increase compared to the year ending June 2018, however, this change is not statistically significant.

    Also, there were:

    27,820 people killed or seriously injured

    157,630 casualties of all severities, a decrease of 5%

    Are you going to stop everyone driving. Your numbers are useless nd so is your theory 

  • 1 month ago

    Perhaps you would care to explain how problems historically associated with an entirely different vaccine produced from and for an entirely different virus (poliovirus) by an entirely different method, has any relation or relevance to to Covid

    In addition the mortality you attribute to the MMR vaccine represents a vanishingly small risk of death or serious complications compared with contracting the diseases themselves

    You really are doing everyone a grave disservice by continuing to promote discredited theories, lies and distortions Chuck!

    Source(s): Scientist
  • 1 month ago

    You aren't dealing in reality with regards to risk assessment in relation to the benefit risk ratio. How many people die in car accidents in relation to riding horses? How many people die riding horses in relation to simply walking? 

    One takes the risk of vaccination vs the risk and damage that the virus has caused and in no way does the risk outweigh the benefit. It doesn't even come close. The numbers pale in relation to the numbers caused by viruses. How you and your anti vaccine friends can wake up each morning and look yourself in the mirror and not be horrified with yourself is beyond me. After all the lies about MMR causing autism makes you guys despicable and no one should accept your numbers and misrepresentations as facts. 

    Measles, Mumps, and Rubella Vaccine

  • Anonymous
    1 month ago

    No deaths recorded in the UK for today, it's always down on a Sunday but last Sunday there was still a few hundred. Nothing to do with the vaccine? There will always be some casualties but the overall effect is good, I can't remember it ever being on zero even when it got good last year.

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