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? asked in Arts & HumanitiesHistory · 2 months ago

Were the Fir-bolg supposed to be Greek?

Someone replied that the Greeks could not have left Greece in 1500 BC because Greece was not founded until 800 AD.

However, i was unaware that the fir-bolg ever claimed to be Greek.

"Those who went to Greece became the Fir Bolg. The Lebor Gabála Érenn says that they were enslaved by the Greeks and made to carry bags of soil or clay, hence the name 'Fir Bolg' (men of bags). The Cath Maige Tuired says that they were forced to settle on poor, rocky land but that they made it into fertile fields by dumping great amounts of soil on it. After 230 years of slavery (or oppression), they leave Greece".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fir_Bolg#Myth .

According to Irish legend they were already Irish, and they left Ireland 1744 BC to go to Greece.

And they returned via Hiberia the sametime as the Exodus.

Can i have more information regarding them being Greek, or part of any Greek empire?

Update:

800 AD, actually should have been 800 BC.

Update 2:

I dont see what the childrens stories revolving around adult characters have to do with the question, so please do not include them.

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  • ?
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    2 months ago
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    No.  Read about their curious form of physical combat/ duelling, the ancient 'ball tug of the Firbolgs'.

  • Tina
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    2 months ago

    Steven - Irish legends - have you got to the Fomorians yet? they were led by Balor, a giant with a single eye which destroyed all its glance fell on - he kept his daughter in a glass tower because it had been prophesied that he would be destroyed by his grandson. But he stole someone's magic cow and in revenge the man gained entrance to the tower and seduced the daughter who gave birth to triplets. Balor ordered them drowned, and two died or turned into seals but the the third...

    By the way the Fir Bolgs were so called because they were the first men to wear trousers...

    Oh, and the first invasion of Ireland ended badly, because many men died, and the man who was left with fifty women was horrified at the idea that he ran away... and his was the first dead body ever in Ireland.

    You really cannot relate Irish legend to history.

    Legends are not children's stories, Steven.You are quoting legends. Geoffrey of Monmouth's stories about the mythical Brutus killing giants in the west country are legends - some of them turned into Cornish drolls about Jack the Giant Killer - the Irish stories about the Invasions of Ireland are *legends* not history. If, for your own reasons, you choose to believe in the Fir Bolg you have to believe in their trousers as well, and the earlier invasions of Ireland including the one in which there are 150 women and three men: "The first man dies and is buried in Wexford. The second man then has 100 women and soon dies of exhaustion. The 150 women chase the remaining man, who saves himself by jumping into the sea and turning into a salmon.[9]"

    I'm only surprised that you didn't use the story of Balor's daughter to 'prove' that the Fir Bolg had come from Greece and brought the story of Perseus with them.

  • Anonymous
    2 months ago

    Fir-Bolg were part of a group of 30 men who, with their descendants, spent 230 years in Greece as slaves before returning as a group large enough to conquer and divide Ireland. Does this seem even slightly realistic?

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