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Anonymous asked in Computers & InternetHardwareDesktops · 2 months ago

Small Form GTX 1060?

I recently purchases a small form factor desktop (Precision 3431) with i9, 16GB, Quadro P1000 mDP to DP.

I plan to add aftermarket ram to beef it up to 64GB. My question:

Is there a small form GTX 1060 equivalent Quadro card? I ask because I hobby with Autocad and Illustrator but also occasionally play Borderlands 3 or Fallout 4. 

I'm not really a gamer, so I can't justify a GeForce when I spend most of my free time designing on Autocad and Indesign. However, I would like to run Borderlands 3 on the higher settings at 1080p when I do play.

Consolation question: Would any of you link me to a Quadro-GeForce conversion chart? I've seen estimates before but cannot tract down the charts.

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  • A.J.
    Lv 7
    2 months ago
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    Answer about GTX 1060, in any size, is NO. Even a GTX 1060 Mobility at only 80 watts as a custom made use is considered too high for that system. A custom cooling design GTX 1650 low profile may be possible.

    It took a lot of research to determine what is possible.

    Small form factor PCs get limited by size and availability of parts to repair, ability to keep them cool, power supply wattage and availability, difficulty to assemble and upgrade. Once you buy one, you have accepted many limitations.

    Precision 3431 is a Dell branded, to restrict you even more than building your own from non-custom parts.

    Dell US doesn't even show a 3431 with i9 and 16gb now. It shows 32gb.

    Weak power supplies, as 200 Watts or 260 Watts, but are highly efficient in AC to DC and therefore low heat dissipation.

    They show workstation graphics cards, as certified to graphics design and edit rather than gaming, and with different design characteristics.

    Radeon Pro WX 2100 2GB (35Watts), Radeon Pro WX 3100 4GB(65W), Radeon Pro WX 4100 4GB(50W), AMD Radeon Pro WX3200 LP 4GB(50W), NVIDIA Quadro P620 2GB(40W), NVIDIA Quadro P1000 4GB(47 watts)

    Dell violates the power supply wattage recommendation from AMD and NVidia using a low wattage power supply.

    You show the P1000, a 47 watt design card, which performance rates by techpowerup.com in rank, and passmark users as score:

    GeForce GTX 1050 (G3D test score 4806), Radeon HD 7950 (G3D test score 4764), Quadro P1000 (G3D test score 4406), GeForce GTX 760 (G3D test score 4938)

    https://www.videocardbenchmark.net/gpu_list.php

    https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/quadro-p1000...

    More ram does not help much above 16GB.

    I don't know why you would buy an expensive overpriced system and then look into upgrading it. You should have researched BEFORE you buy.

    You would need a graphics card at no more than 75 watts ABSOLUTE maximum with no PCIe supplemental power requirement from the power supply.

    You can try to look into power supplies that are stronger and fit and are also platinum or gold efficient, but Dell could have custom connectors to deal with in that PC. It would be a special small size and higher 12 volt wattage.

    The strongest capable graphics processor in a commercially available card would be a GTX 1650 IF you have the 260 watt Dell power supply and you press the supply to its limit  and caution about pushing the card clock.

    The P1000 and other cards are SINGLE width cards.

    The Precision 3420 fit double width just barely, but in a 3431 I think they made the space even tighter and double width does not look like it fits. The GTX 1650 low profile Zotac, MSI, KFA2, and Gigabyte cards all look double wide as two slot wide.

    I'm looking at 17 second mark in this Dell video

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=koPuF96xvsU

    Youtube thumbnail

    and this image

    https://media.itpro.co.uk/image/upload/t_content-i...

    You need a low profile PCIe x 16 single wide that gets all of its power from the motherboard as under 75 watts.

    PNY did a single width GTX 1650 in full ATX height rather than low profile

    https://www.pny.com/pny-geforce-gtx-1650-xlr8-oc

    I can't find a single width GTX 1050 TI in low profile

    Even a single slot low profile RX 550 512 version has a double height fan

    https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07DLTH1YT

    You would probably have to design a modification of custom cooling on a GTX 1650 low profile removing the fans.

    I just can't find a single slot low profile low power card any better than what Dell is using already.

    With what you have,

    Borderlands 3 in 1920x1080 Medium preset  35-40 fps average

    Fallout 4 and Fallout 76 will take game settings optimizing. Start with medium preset in 1920x 1080 and decide how to adjust the settings for smoothest play.

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