Remainers: If Norway and Switzerland can prosper outside the EU, why not the UK?
Looking for mature answers, not throwing abuse at the other side.
- Jas BLv 73 weeks ago
Norway is part of the European Economic Area ( EEA) An Agreement on the EEA provides for the free movement of persons, goods, services and capital within the European Single Market, including the freedom to choose residence in any country within this area. The EEA was established on 1 January 1994. An agreement which also applies to Iceland and Liechtenstein.
The relations between Switzerland and the European Union (EU) are framed by a series of bilateral treaties whereby the Swiss Confederation has adopted various provisions of European Union law in order to participate in the Union's single market, without joining as a member state. This includes free movement and since 2008, Switzerland has contributed CHF 1.3 billion towards various projects designed to reduce the economic and social disparities in an enlarged EU
Things which Boris has already stated he will not accept or do.
- 3 weeks ago
look the ball is in your court and now you must prove we are better off outside of the EU.
FISHING RIGHTS ARE NOW A MESS AFTER THE EU SAY A TRADE DEAL WILL REQUIRE US TO ACCEPT THE EU FISHING IN OUR WATERS .
So that MEP said last week that we will have no MEP'S to argue our case in the EU parliament for our fishing rights ….oh dear ….
- BrianLv 73 weeks ago
I have no doubt Britain will survive and even continue to prosper, eventually
but instead of working alongside 27 other European countries, striving for joint success, we will be in direct competition. Fighting for every contract, reducing costs (wages, pensions, welfare, health care etc) until we can match or better the Germans, French or Polish.
So, you are correct the UK can be successful. However, we are already living a good life - why risk it? I'm not seeing any benefit
- 3 weeks ago
Romans 9:27 ¶ And Isaiah cries out concerning Israel, “Though the number of THE CHILDREN OF ISRAEL were like the sand of the sea, ONLY A REMNANT OF THEM WILL BE SAVED;"
Isaiah 10:20-23 ¶ On that day the remnant of Israel and the survivors of the house of Jacob will no more lean on the one who struck them, but will lean on the Lord, the Holy One of Israel, in truth. A remnant will return, the remnant of Jacob, to the mighty God. For though your people Israel were like the sand of the sea, only a remnant of them will return. DESTRUCTION IS DECREED, OVERFLOWING WITH RIGHTEOUSNESS. For the Lord God of hosts will make a full end, as decreed, in all the earth.
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- Huh?Lv 73 weeks ago
They may not be EU members but they both have strong trade ties with the EU, by virtue of their EFTA membership. They are members of the European Single Market and the Schengen Area - as are the other two EFTA members, Iceland and Lichtenstein.
Since Britain will be giving up its membership of the Single Market once the transition period for withdrawal expires, we will no longer be able to trade with the EU as part of the Single Market - we will go back to needing things like import and export permits, certifications for animal exports, and all sorts of bureaucratic guff which we currently don't need. And of course, we can expect manufacturers who rely on just-in-time imports from Europe, like Nissan and Airbus, to quietly start moving their manufacturing to countries which don't have trade barriers interfering with their imports.
Potentially Britain could prosper outside the EU, but it will be much harder than necessary to do once we deliberately erect trade barriers with the European market, just a short sea crossing away. The only comparably sized markets are those of the USA, China and maybe India, and they will not give us anything like as favourable trade terms as those we are throwing away.
But yeah, it's worth it for blue passports and reduced immigration (not).
- Green BrickLv 73 weeks ago
For a start we're an island. Plus our current Government are a bunch of losers, who will do everything to agree to a 'No Deal'.
- Jack HLv 73 weeks ago
They both have agreements with the EU, which cost them money, but give them no say in rule making, but keep them in the free market. When Britain negotiates the same, it will actually cost you more than you pay now, because Thatcher negotiated a discount on the subs, hey ho, take back control...
- ANDRE LLv 74 weeks ago
Norway has oil, and a reserve fund from it worth $200,000 per Norwegian.
Plus, while they're not in the full EU: The European Free Trade Association (EFTA) is a regional trade organization and free trade area consisting of four European states: Iceland, Liechtenstein, Norway, and Switzerland.
And, Switzerland's current status is not going to stay that way, read the link.
Why Swiss struggles do not bode well for UK after Brexit
The Alpine country is, like Britain, seeking a new bespoke relationship with the bloc and coming under pressure from Brussels.
- Anonymous4 weeks ago
If you compare the economic growth rates of the EU with places like Turkey and Russia over the last 20 years it's only going to be a matter of time before they catch up. The EU is a truly backwards institution.
- megalomaniacLv 74 weeks ago
Looks like we're all going to find out. It's kind of a forgone conclusion at this point.