If the Nazis had not done the holocaust, would the story be different?
- Christopher CadyLv 45 months agoFavorite Answer
Well, which parts of the story? The Nazis probably still would have lost -- it was more Germany's invasion of Russia and Japan's instigating the US that cost the Axis their victory.
However, a lack of genocide of the Jews and the resulting Allied sympathies would probably have prevented the Zionist movement that led to the formation of the modern state of Israel, and so the Middle East would likely be a far less contentious region than it is today. It might even have prevented 9/11 (assuming the conspiracy theorists are wrong on the motivations).
Additionally, Nazi atrocities did afford a great deal of knowledge in medicine, and their heinous actions established a strong precedence against fascism. Without the evils the Nazis committed associated with fascism, people today might be all the more willing to subscribe to nationalism and totalitarianism. But then the Cold War conflict against communism would have remained, so maybe not.Of course, speculating on alternate histories is shaky business. So many variables that it's impossible to say with much confidence.
- Anonymous5 months ago
No Hitler No WW2
no WW2 no Holocaust
No Hitler No Holocaust
it was Hitlers plan to eradicate the Jews he said so in 1924
- RichardLv 75 months ago
If Hitler didn't persecute the Jews, Germany would have been the first country to have an atom bomb. Most of the people working on the US A-Bomb were Jews who fled the Nazis (Bohr, Einstein, Oppenheimer, Teller, etc.)
- TinaLv 75 months ago
Dave (aka Hour Glass)
Why are you recommending that people read a pamphlet produced by Goebbels? and have you actually *read* it?
Much of it is about what the Poles are alleged to have done on what the Nazis called 'Bloody Sunday' - which was *after* the Germans had invaded, not before, and happened *because* the Germans invaded.
As I have already pointed out to you the number of Polish victims is far greater than the number of German victims (as you would expect - the Germans had taken over).
How could events which happened after Hitler's invasion started have caused Hitler to invade?
As for your repeated assertion:
"It doesn't tell the truth about how the western allies investigated after the war and found no extermination camps in all of Germany -"
You never add - this is because the extermination camps were in E Europe. Although there were killing stations in Germany, set up before the war began to kill the sick and mentally disturbed - those Hitler called 'useless mouths.'
It is also a flat lie that the Allies:
"never investigated the Soviet claims that there were gas chambers in Poland"
You ignore all the evidence from prisoners, from the Sonderkommando - in fact from everyone who testifies to anything you don't like.
And while you make a great deal of fuss about the gas chambers you ignore the mass killings at Babi Yar, and the appalling "Harvest Festival" massacre:
"Aktion Erntefest took place on November 3 and 4, 1943. On the orders of Christian Wirth and Jakob Sporrenberg, approximately 42,000–43,000 Polish Jews were killed simultaneously. Virtually the entire Jewish workforce was eliminated, thus concluding Operation Reinhard."
Why are you defending mass murder? why do you defend Hitler?
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- canadacraigLv 75 months ago
Yes. But not better. I have always believed that if there was no such thing as Hitler and the Nazi's some other horrific event would have taken place.
- Anonymous5 months ago
We'll never know.
- nonpartisanLv 65 months ago
General history lies.
It doesn't tell the truth about how the western allies investigated after the war and found no extermination camps in all of Germany - but never investigated the Soviet claims that there were gas chambers in Poland - the United States and Britain simply took the say-so of Communists on face value.
This was because they had already decided that the Germans were guilty of crimes against humanity before they even set up the kangaroo court they called the Nuremberg Trials. Having "gas chambers" as evidence was all the incriminating evidence they needed.
And although you'll find evidence of the hundreds of thousands of Jews and others who perished in the Nazi camps from typhus and other disease epidemics if you look hard enough, "general history" prefers to point to gas chambers because it elicits more sympathy to drive the dagger into the back of Germany as deep as possible.
Nor does "general history" explain that Zionism is a political movement and not a Judaic entity. "Claiming" to represent the interests of Jews and then throwing them under the bus doesn't create a very stable connection.
Do your due diligence - do your own checking. Learn the other side of the story from the German perspective (if you can find anything that hasn't been censored). Only when you look at things from both sides can you make an educated conclusion.
Don't be like the majority of people who have memorized the same "general history" and recite it in here almost word-for-word.
A good place to start is at the beginning - the truth about who caused Hitler to invade Poland.https://www.ibiblio.org/hyperwar/NHC/NewPDFs/GERMA...
- USAFisnumber1Lv 75 months ago
What story? Lets say Germany did NOT spend all that time, effort and money doing the Holocaust and death camps. That would mean 11 million people would not have died. But the outcome of the war may have changed. They would have had all those people, all those supplies, all that equipment that they could have thrown into the war. Maybe it would have been enough to take out England, or beat the Russians. Would that have been a better outcome?
- 5 months ago
Yes, but it would not have helped Germany win the war or anything. Modern life would be different in that we would not refer to the Holocaust as the model example of tragedy. Instead, we would perhaps reference the Gulags of the Soviet Union, or the human experimentation camps in Japan, both of which, in my opinion, were more brutal and devastating, (not to undermind the victims of the Holocaust).