Did the allies in the WW2 European theatre have any weapons or vehicles better than the Germans?
I keep repeatedly hearing how during the time how technologically advanced the German military was, how they had some of the best tanks or guns or planes etc. like for example they talk a lot about tiger tanks and how powerful they were. Also people talk about how they were the first to have jets. Plus there was also the fact that they had the early assault rifle like the MP44. But what about the allies? Surely they ground breaking weapons of their own too. The US and UK and USSR must have had many things that were astonishing at the time.
- Anonymous1 month ago
The M1 Garand was considered the best infantry rifle of WW2.
- JosephLv 71 month ago
The idea that the German weapons were better than those of their enemies is simply not true.
The Soviet T-34-76 tank was far superior than anything Germans could put in the field until the end of 1942. The T-34 had thicker armor and larger gun than the Germans. The Soviet KV heavy tank was impervious to anything the German tanks could fire at it, while its 85 mm shell easily went through the German armor.
In fact, it was after seeing the T-34 and KV performance in the Winter War, the Germans launched the program to develop the Panther and Tiger tanks. These tanks were mechanical works of art, but also had many drawbacks. The Panther's Final Drive was originally designed for a lighter tank and was prone to breakdowns. When that happened, the transmission was difficult to replace. The Tiger also proved too maintenance headache. Also, by the time the Panther and the Tiger tanks appeared in the field in large numbers, the Soviets up-gunned the T-34s with an 85 mm gun and started production of the IS heavy tanks.
The Soviet 45 mm anti-tank gun could penetrate the armor of any German tank before it could bring its own weapon into range. More ominously, in 1941 the Soviets considered the 45 mm obsolete and started replacing it with an even more powerful 76 mm gun.
An even bigger surprise for the Germans was the Katyusha Multiple Launch Rocket System. A BN-13 truck mounted launcher could be on the move immediately after firing its 16 rounds in 7 to 10 seconds, denying the enemy to respond with the counterbattery fire. A battery of four launchers could, in a single salvo, devastate the area of 400,000 square meters with 4.35 tons of explosives.
- Anonymous1 month ago
You have missed perhaps the most significant (in post war terms) the V2 weapon.
There were ground-breaking allied weapons but the main difference was philosophical to an extent the Soviets and US were prepared to accept casualties and materiel losses, so they would swamp any opposition. The British had several weapon systems that were only months behind German ones – jet fighters and main battle tanks (Firefly was a stop-gap cobbled from existing technology), they were also world leaders in electronic intelligence.
- curtisports2Lv 71 month ago
They were the first to have jets but they didn't have many and they came too late to do much good. The Germans had the early advantage because they began to re-arm in the 1930s, in violation of the Treaty of Versaiiles, but the UK and France did little but make feeble protests and were far too late to start building up their own capabilities. But the Brits, with help from the US, quickly built up a very capable air force, and once the US got into the war, by 1943-44, they were equal or superior to the Germans in technology.
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- ANDRE LLv 71 month ago
The problem for the Germans was that their advanced weapons were rushed into service before the bugs were worked out, and even then only in small overall numbers.
It's hard for 488 King Tigers to stop 84,000 T-34s. It's hard for 1,400 ME-262s to stop 15,000 P-51s and so on.
Western powers leaned towards a more healthy mix between quality and quantity. Once the F-6F Hellcat showed up in the Pacific, that was pretty much it for the survival of Japanese aircraft outside of a cave.
In artillery, German guns were no better. And, what really cemented Western Allied superiority on land wasn't just tanks, but included fast truck convoys which could support and replenish combat units move faster than units lacking such comprehensive support.
- Old Man DirtLv 71 month ago
Sonar, Radar, the Bazooka come to mind right off the bat. The B17, Mosquito and Black Widow aircraft. The M-1, Grease gun (also called the Sten gun) while not innovative from engineering points of view were marvels of cost containment.
Of course the Atomic bomb.
- Anonymous1 month ago
Yes, the Allies did. It's been a long time since I've read in depth about WWII militaria so I don't remember the specifics, but there were plenty of things which the Allies did better. A lot of the idea of the Germans as technologically advanced is overblown. Some of these advantages are also conditional. IIRC the Tiger tank, for example, was larger and more heavily armored than a Sherman, but the Sherman was faster and could turn it's turret quicker. So it's about what you need in that moment. The other thing to understand is that some of these German technological advances were more theoretical and had relatively limited use. Others, such as the V series rockets, were a technical tour de force but were of negligible utility in helping the Germans win the war. As the war went on and the Allied attacks impinged ever more on the German economy they were forced to really cut back the variety of their military products and concentrate on just one or two types of every category (ie, one fighter plane, one infantry rifle, one machine gun etc).
And of course, on the most consequential scientific development of the war, the atomic bomb, the Axis was way behind. The Nazi atomic program, despite being run by Werner Heisenberg, one of the greatest physicists of all time, never came close to developing a bomb.
- sydney19Lv 51 month ago
the British Firefly was better it was a Modified Sherman took on Tigers from
D Day Both Tiger 1 and 2
everyone including the germans said the Spitfire and Lancaster helped win WW2
- RickLv 61 month ago
we just had MORE ...............................