Do the Jews Still Expect a Messiah to be Born?
if so, how will they identify him if and when he is born?0
- PubliusLv 71 month ago
Yes, they do.
One problem with that is that Bethlehem is currently Palestinian territory. No Messiah is going to be born there.
They didn't recognize the Messiah when he came to them. It's not likely that they shall recognize any other.
- BMCRLv 71 month ago
The issue is not when he will be born but what are the criteria for being the Messiah.
The Messiah will have to accomplish things thus one cannot tell anyone is the Messiah merely because they were born.
See https://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/112... for more details.
- Anonymous1 month ago
Jesus is the Messiah and Catholicism is the One True Faith. A person can know these things with certainty by reciting the rosary of the Virgin Mary every day with care and sincerity. The feast of the Immaculate Conception of Mary is coming up soon, too!
- 1 month ago
Lets see what the Tankah says the Mashiach will achieve:
In the Messianic era there is peace
In the Messianic era there is no poverty
In the Messianic era there is no disease
In the Messianic era the dead are resurrected
In the Messianic era all the Jews are gathered in Israel
In the Messianic era all the nations of the world acknowledge the holiness of the Jews and look to them for guidance
Lets see which of those Jesus fulfilled:
See the problem? Nowhere does the Tanakh discuss the Pagan concept of G-d having children and then walking around doing miracles. It does discuss a person with a human father and a human mother being the vehicle (The Mashiach) through which G-d will work to fulfill the above prophecies. And what are the requirements for the Mashiach: a Jewish mother since without that he is not Jewish; A Jewish father from the House of David without which he cannot be from the house of David; to be a righteous Jew- which Jesus was not since 1) he failed to fulfill the mitzva (commandment) of p'ru urevu (be fruitful and mulitply) and 2) he told his followers it was ok to break the Shabbos, he failed to show he was completely righteous in that he destroyed somebodies livelihood by cursing a fig tree and destroying it merely for not having fruit out of season when it is not meant to have fruit!
So, heres another way to summarise the lack of fulfillment of messianic prophecies by Jesus:
1) The dead were not resurrected
2) The Jews did not beome priests to the other nations
3) There is no world peace
4) The temple is not standing
5) There is no temple service
6) There is no parah adumah or its ashes to render us tahor
7) The messiah is from the House of David. your house/tribe is inherited from your father. Your father is your BIOLOGICAL father- there is no adoption in Judaisim to another father- if God is the father of Jesus- then Jesus cannot be from the House of David as God is not frm the House of David.
8) Human sacrifice is completely forbidden in Judaism- remember God stopping the sacrifice of Isaac? The idea of a human being sacrificed is the opposite of anything from Judaism!
9) You have to atone for yourself! An essential part of the atonement process is being repentant. Someone cannot be repentant for you- you have to do it for yourself. ONly communal sins can be forgiven communally- not individual, private sins!
10) The messiah needs to be observant of ALL Jewish laws- Jesus told his followers to violate the Sabath by picking Barley on it- even though it is an activity explictly prohibited on the Sabath (God forbade the collection of Mana on the Shabbos and told them to collect a double portion on Friday. PLus we have the incident with the person collecting (gathering) firewood on shabbos that G-d ordered to be killed.)
And no- the messiah does NOT proclaim himself- he will be recognised by his deeds- not by his claims- in other words, through doing the above he will be recognised as the messiah. On top of that- mashiach is a HUMAN being, with HUMAN parents- the idea of an anthropomorphised God going around and impregnating young woman is completely alien to Judaism- though it fits very nicely into the pagan religions of the time which had their heroes being fathered by gods (ala Hercules and his daddy Zeus)
And just for completeness- a summarised list of the 23 prophecies that the Mashiach will fulfill
(My thanks to Mark S for putting this list together)
* The Sanhedrin will be re-established (Isaiah 1:26)
* Once he is King, leaders of other nations will look to him for guidance. (Isaiah 2:4)
* The whole world will worship the One God of Israel (Isaiah 2:17)
* He will be descended from King David (Isaiah 11:1) via King Solomon (1 Chron. 22:8-10)
* The Moshiach will be a man of this world, an observant Jew with "fear of God" (Isaiah 11:2)
* Evil and tyranny will not be able to stand before his leadership (Isaiah 11:4)
* Knowledge of God will fill the world (Isaiah 11:9)
* He will include and attract people from all cultures and nations (Isaiah 11:10)
* All Israelites will be returned to their homeland (Isaiah 11:12)
* Death will be swallowed up forever (Isaiah 25:8)
* There will be no more hunger or illness, and death will cease (Isaiah 25:8)
* All of the dead will rise again (Isaiah 26:19)
* The Jewish people will experience eternal joy and gladness (Isaiah 51:11)
* He will be a messenger of peace (Isaiah 52:7)
* Nations will end up recognizing the wrongs they did to Israel (Isaiah 52:13-53:5)
* The peoples of the world will turn to the Jews for spiritual guidance (Zechariah 8:23)
* The ruined cities of Israel will be restored (Ezekiel 16:55)
* Weapons of war will be destroyed (Ezekiel 39:9)
* The Temple will be rebuilt (Ezekiel 40) resuming many of the suspended mitzvot
* He will then perfect the entire world to serve God together (Zephaniah 3:9)
* Jews will know the Torah without Study (Jeremiah 31:33)
* He will give you all the desires of your heart (Psalms 37:4)
* He will take the barren land and make it abundant and fruitful (Isaiah 51:3, Amos 9:13-15, Ezekiel 36:29-30, Isaiah 11:6-9)Source(s): Answer from Allonyoav who is an acting rabbi and Orthodox Jew I am also an Orthodox Jew
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- GodLv 41 month ago
Yes. The Jews are still waiting for the messiah. The Old Testament clearly lays out certirea for the messiah. Jesus did not fit into any messianic prophecy. Read Isaiah 53 carefully. It's not about Jesus. But it is about the messiah.