If time began to exist with the universe, then how could God have existed before the universe did?
I know I posted something similar but I wanted to clarify.
A sequence of events with before and after implies time. If we say that God still existed before the universe was created we are saying there was time before the universe was created. But if time began when the universe was created, there was no "before" in which God existed since the concept of before makes no sense without the existence of time. This just confuses me.
- 3 months ago
Time is in the world but time does not make sense beyond this world, as when we dream and dream, time does not make sense in sleep, because what we dream if it were awakening would take hours
- antoniusLv 73 months ago
If you are referring to the bible god that is automatically eliminated, as the only information it is showing is nothing more than 6,000 years ago.
- susanLv 73 months ago
Well. I see your point. However consider this: time as we understand it is measured, counted, and described only in terms of the objects in the physical universe and their movements.
Christians such as myself believe in a God that created all of that. I believe there was God with no physical universe, and I believe that at some point God created the universe, and all that is in it. And that universe has certain rhythms built into it, which are what we think of when we talk about time.
So for me, talking about time existing apart from the physical universe is sort of meaningless. But that doesn't necessarily mean that the God I believe in couldn't have existed without that universe.
Does that make any sense?
- sk8terboy1963Lv 43 months ago
Our current understanding of reality is that it is temporally based. Therefore, anything outside of that, logically, cannot exist. We discern the natural world around us through science. Science uses facts to show what is actually true. A fact is a point of data that is concordant with or indicative of whatever we are trying to show is actually true. There is nothing, no fact, no idea, nothing to show that anything supernatural is even possible. THAT, is a fact.
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- Chi girlLv 73 months ago
Being eternal, God exists outside of time. He started the clock ticking, so to speak, by creating the universe.Source(s): Greek Orthodox Christian
- Roberta BLv 63 months ago
God exists outside of time. We really don't understand time, but define it as a way of measuring and sequencing events. But our Creator said that He knows the end from the beginning. Isaiah 46:10
- 3 months ago
In the beginning (of time) God created the heaven (space) and the earth (matter).
God brought the universe (time, space, matter) into existence simultaneously.
God is timeless, spaceless, and immaterial
- Annsan_In_HimLv 73 months ago
It would be more correct to say "For our universe to exist, time had to start." That's crucially different to saying that time began to exist with our universe. It could be the case that a form of time operates in another dimension that is not experienced by us who are confined to physical life in time-space. The Bible speaks of God and eternity. We just don't have any experience of eternity, but if God has, and if eternity is what operates in His realm of Heaven, then we cannot say it's impossible for God to exist outside of time. We can only speak of time as we know it. We do not know how God experiences time as He is a Spirit and lives in eternity.
- nineteenthlyLv 73 months ago
God's existence isn't dependent on the Universe. Asking where God was before the beginning of time is like reading a novel set entirely inside one building and asking where the author is located in that building. God is the author of time and space.
- David B.Lv 73 months ago
I don't think humans are capable of fully understanding the concept of eternity. If it has no end, does it have a beginning? It seems clear to me that there is more than one dimension to time though.