Ex-Christians, what do you say to angry Christians who say you were never a real Christian anyway?

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  • Nous
    Lv 7
    4 weeks ago

    The only way primitive religion exists today is through the child abuse of forcing it into very, very young children but thanks to better education and growing intellects so many teens are able to discover the truth, throw off the indoctrination and step into the real world!

    So atheism is not a conscious decision or a belief but a realisation!

    The first person to produce a single tiny little piece of verifiable evidence for any god will become world famous and mega rich!

    Academia states that in the absence of any sort of evidence of the existence of something it must be deemed not to exist until verifiable evidence is found - thus god is held not to exist pending some sort of verifiable evidence.

    The bible is what is called "Faction” A fictional story set in a factual time and place. Thus the time, place and real historical characters are all correct but the fictional characters and stories are not!

    There is not one single mention of Jesus in the entire Roman record - that is right - not one! At the same time as he was supposed to have been around there were a number of Jews claiming to be the messiah - all of whom are well recorded!

    There is not a single contemporary record from any source and even the bible mentions of him like all other references were not written until many years after his supposed death!

    He was supposed to have been a huge problem to the Romans and produced wonderful miracles but still not one contemporary record?

    Even the bible mentions of him like all other references were not written until many years after his supposed death!

    Pilate is recorded in the Roman record as a somewhat lack luster man but no mention of a Jesus, a trial or crucifixion that would surely have been used to make him look brighter!

    At best he was an amalgam of those others but almost certainly never existed!

    Not one word of it is contemporary with the period and was not written until several hundred years after the period the story is set in!! How did the apostles write their books more than a hundred years after they would have been dead?

    Christianity is an invention of the Italians and that is why it came from the Holy ROMAN Catholic church!

    Please realize that those claims for the Old historians are worthless since they were not even born until long after everyone in the stories would have been so long dead!

    Josephus AD 37 – AD 100

    Tacitus AD 56 – AD 120

    Suetonius - 69 – 130 AD

    Pliny the Younger, 61 AD – 112 AD

    Justin Martyr (Saint Justin) AD103–165 AD

    Lucian - AD 120 -180 AD but he was hostile to Christianity and openly mocked it.

    Pamphilius AD 240-309 AD

    Eusebius AD 263 – 339 AD

    Photius AD 877 – 886 AD

    Thallus - But there are no actual record of him except a fragment of writing which mentions the sack of Troy [109 BC] Showing that he was clearly not alive in biblical times.

    Some even try to use Seneca. 4 BCE – 65 CE but as a Stoic Philosopher he opposed religion yet made not a single mention of a Jesus or Christianity!

    Even funnier is trying to claim Celsus AD ? – 177 AD Who said that Jesus was a Jew who’se mother was a poor Jewish girl whose husband, who was a carpenter, drove her away because of her adultery with a Roman soldier named Panthera. She gave birth to an illegitimate child named Jesus. In Egypt, Jesus became learned in sorcery and upon his return presented himself as a god.

    Research shows whilst education reduces religious belief each year of further education reduces religious belief by up to 10%!

  • Jake
    Lv 7
    4 weeks ago

    Jesus exists and is God. A person can know these things with certainty by way of having true devotion to the Sacred Heart of Jesus.

  • 4 weeks ago

    I point out they are wrong, I was a 100 percent believing Christian.

  • sarah
    Lv 7
    4 weeks ago

    Religion is a very personal thing and freedom of religion means it is not anyone's business what you believe or don't believe. A healthy discussion if they want to know is okay but mostly it is a very personal thing.

    • el4 weeks agoReport

      You’re right. If people would stop saying what or who they believe in and let there actions speak for themselves this would be a nicer place.

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  • I'm sure this will come as no surprise to anyone, but I tend to take it personally.

  • Juli
    Lv 4
    4 weeks ago

    I don't care what anyone says.

    Their opinions are irrelevant to the facts.

  • 4 weeks ago

    You are not being clear if you mean that every Christian who disagree with those who leave their faith is an "angry Christian" or you're just being specific about the distinction between "angry Christians" and "calm Christians" who are willing to reason. As a ex-ex-Christian, I say that I was not a theological-thinking Christian when I left my faith. I don't make the rules on what a "true Christian" is. Every Christian is flawed. But those who are closer to being a real Christian are those who are committed to understanding and following Christ. 

  • Anonymous
    4 weeks ago

    there is no such thing as ex-Christian.

    • Buttercup
      Lv 6
      4 weeks agoReport

      See, you're one of the people who don't understand.  You have no frame of reference, so you mindlessly repeat the dogma your leaders taught you.  It's not true at all, but your life experience is too limited for you to understand. 

  • 4 weeks ago

    That I don't care.

  • 4 weeks ago

    PEOPLE WHO WERE never saved were never Christians anyway!! I'm not angry. I just tell the truth...

    • Buttercup
      Lv 6
      4 weeks agoReport

      Fireball nailed her mind shut many years ago.  There's no point in trying to introduce a new thought  to her.

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