catrin l asked in News & EventsCurrent Events · 4 weeks ago

Does acknowledging that the girls who were groomed by Asian gangs had “troubled backgrounds” exonerate the men who groomed them?

Or is this totally illogical?

Surely saying that the girls had troubled backgrounds does not exonerate the men who groomed them, it just gave them the opportunity to do so. What is so difficult to understand about that? A typical logical fallacy.

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  • 4 weeks ago
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    No, of course it doesn’t. It just acknowledges what we already knew, that these evil child sex abusers deliberately targeted the most vulnerable, those they knew were starved of love and care, those they could deceive into thinking these men cared for them. Those who didn’t have a loving family to turn to when they were forced to do things they didn’t want to. Those the abusers knew had been on the fringes of society, so wouldn’t be believed when they complained to the authorities.

    Acknowledging these girls had troubled backgrounds no more exonerates, excuses, supports or defends these paedophiles, than acknowledging that old people are frail exonerates the thugs who mug them on pension day.

    Sadly, some people don’t actually care about the victims at all. They just want to weaponise their suffering to spread hatred and to spread lies about what others believe.

  • 4 weeks ago

    No it doesn't, nor does it exonerate the authorities who for years/decades ran scared from this problem, and they did. 

    Nor does it exonerate present day authorities from not properly investing and prosecuting those who in the past ran scared from this problem, because lets face it they'er not that difficult to find are they, when they're right under your very nose.

  • 4 weeks ago

    No, of course not. Whilst not every single victim had a troubled background, it does not excuse the perpetrators of their horrible crimes to recognise that there were common trends in the victims that made them vulnerable to exploitation and abuse, nor does imply any blame on their part. It’s a fact that many of the girls were in care or from broken homes. Charlene Downes was an example. It’s one of the reasons why the authorities had such a horrible attitude towards them.

    The lesson we should take from it is that we should be doing more to help prevent girls fall victim to such circumstances. Knee jerk racism and bigotry is not the answer.

    Ironically, many right wingers who claim to care so much about the girls are the same people who would deride them in other contexts as “chavs”, “slappers” or “benefits breeders”.

    • catrin l
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      4 weeks agoReport

      No point in talking sense while the neo nazi is around.

  • 4 weeks ago

    The correct explanation for the trollops would be trailer trash. these trollops were brought and sold by the scum of the earth because they had no hope in society other than being used and abused by scumbags.

    • David 420™
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      4 weeks agoReport

      They were underage, Robert. Some as young as 11 or 12. I reject the idea that they had no hope in society but to be abused.

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  • 4 weeks ago

    Of course it does not exonerate them. Neither does it exonerate political parties who refuse to raise sufficient taxes to pay for an effective Police Force to control the foreign immigrant 'savages' who think our laws do not apply to them and instead follow, what appears to us to be a sociopathic religion.

  • Biff
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    4 weeks ago

    Of course not but it is an indictment of the sort of society we are living in that the girls were so deprived of parental care and love that they were out late at night and so easily convinced the men, some considerably older, were their loving boyfriends. Some still believed the men loved them when they refused to testify against them.

  • Jack H
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    4 weeks ago

    No, it isn't, many of the girls did indeed have troubled backgrounds, following the economic tragedy brought about after Thatcher destroyed local industry. What is rarely acknowledged however, by the right, is the wholesale failure by the South Yorkshire Police Force to follow up on hundreds of reports until they were forced / embarrassed into doing so by lefties...

  • Anonymous
    4 weeks ago

    No, but it's saying the 'poor chav trash' who fell victim to this human rights abuse are somehow less worthy than other human beings.  How did the Labor leadership put it?  'They should shut up for the sake of diversity'.  That one sentence should tell how far modern Labor has strayed from the light their predecessors once shone.

    • David 420™
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      4 weeks agoReport

      The Labour leadership never said that. An MP (Naz Shah) liked and retweeted a joke account on Twitter saying that. It was disgraceful, I agree, she should've resigned, but we have a Tory PM who has said many racist and homophobic things.for "satire".

  • Anonymous
    4 weeks ago

    It is no excuse whatsoever. If a girl has a “troubled background" or is vulnerable it is a reason to treat them with more consideration not less. What it exposes is the cultural disrespect for women and girl of these gangs. The snowflakes will scream ,' Racism, racism' but it isn't. There is no such problems with, for example the Sikh community.

  • 4 weeks ago

    NO! And as the dieseldyke Dianne should know but doesn't, it never will. She is only sorry that she couldn't get a look in, when they were being groomed because it was only for heterosexual purposes!

    Edit...The gross diesel dyke Dianne, must be speaking from personal knowledge of having her computer taken by the police. The Social Services wouldn't have investigated her lesbian affair with a fifteen year old, for no reason, they probably passed on the information to the police to investigate further. She has admitted to this in the past!

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