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Is there any actual evidence to support the "Gender pay gap" or did feminists just make it up for attention?

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  • David
    Lv 5
    12 months ago

    Absolutely a proven fact that the gender pay gap exists unlike grey matter between conservatives ears, that is a myth.

  • Elana
    Lv 7
    12 months ago

    There is a LOT of evidence here. This is heavily studied. No, feminists didn't just make this up out of whole cloth.

    It did used to be fairly common to pay women less than men for exactly the same work, even controlling for seniority, commute, hours, etc.

    THAT HAS BEEN OUTLAWED IN THE UNITED STATES SINCE 1963.

    Of course making something illegal doesn't make it go away, but there have been many law suits, a lot of time in court, billions of dollars in claims payouts etc.

    There are STILL a limited number of cases, mostly caused by ineptness (nobody checked) and women not having any idea what their compatriots are earning.

    One of the suggested law changes was simply that salaries are posted. Clearly there's a lot to that. Some employees are more valuable than others and you're willing to pay more for them, but you really don't want to argue with every employee paid less why. That is not reasonable. Unless the reason you're paying somebody more is because they are male, white, Christian or really any demographic, in which case they have every right to be pi$$ed off.

    Unfortunately, "pay gap" is measured by most feminists in ways that do not take into account different working habits between men and women. Women are more likely to need flex time, will statistically take longer off for children, are more likely to use company supplied benefits etc. These things become statistically predictable overhead that companies are NOT ALLOWED to use in compensation calculations though they certainly come off the bottom line.

    Moreover, women are FAR more likely to make quality of life choice job decisions that bring in less salary than men are. Women are more likely to get into disciplines that historically don't pay well because they find those jobs satisfying (e.g. social work).

    The highest paid jobs have been STEM and management jobs. STEM jobs are overwhelmingly held by male employees despite companies deliberately hiring women preferentially simply because far fewer women want those jobs. Upper management is both stressful and risky, things women tend to find less interesting than men.

    This doesn't mean they couldn't do the job. It means they DON'T WANT to do the job.

    With this push back, you end up asking feminists "Do you think women should be forced to make career decisions more on the basis of salary than they currently do?"

    About the most coherent reply I've seen comes down to "some should, and more men should be taking quality of life over salary".

    At some point, it becomes clear they are looking for men and women to GET the same things out of life misunderstanding that that only happens (and is stable) when they WANT the same things out of life.

    VERY few women, for instance, are willing to have a baby and then completely hand over care to her husband. There are far more men who simply treat it as a foregone conclusion that they will be second fiddle in their children's lives.

    Feminists generally are incredibly good at discarding data they believe hurts their case and simultaneously telling people what they should want. After awhile, the rest of us get tired of it.

    Source(s): WAS a feminist until a bit more than 4 years ago. When I started asking pointed questions, it was only a matter of time before they kicked me out.
  • 12 months ago

    It is a complicated topic but there is evidence out there to support the theory. Try doing your own research into the subject to come up with a reasonable argument for/against - that would be the most effective way to solve this question

  • james
    Lv 7
    12 months ago

    In America when you add all up on cost per person on jobs. Women tend to be less productive, cost more in benefits such as medical & such. Work fewer hours & are restricted in how much heavy work they can do. Such as lifting. Women make more on average than men do. For the same work. Do to higher cost of employing them.

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  • Anonymous
    12 months ago

    It's a myth. Feminists are just hate filled misandrists trying to remain relevant.

  • 12 months ago

    "Is there any actual evidence to support the "Gender pay gap" or did feminists just make it up for attention?"

    It depends how "Gender pay gap" is defined. The 77 - 79% figure that is thrown around most of the time is simply a measure of the median EARNINGS of all working women compared with the median EARNINGS of all men. Nothing to do with the same job, hours, shift-work, time off, working environment or conditions or anything else for that matter. If this is what you call a "wage gap" then yes, there is a wage gap as we fully expect there to be. It's doubtful that most reasonable people have any problem with this

    If we are talking about women being paid less than men when working the exact same job at the same company when they hold the same credentials and work the same hours under the same conditions, then the answer is a flat out NO. And the reason for this is based in our Equal Pay Act law which makes it illegal for such a wage gap to occur. You can read that here:

    https://www.eeoc.gov/laws/statutes/epa.cfm

    Thus we have Pay Equality written into law. And that's all that matters.

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  • 12 months ago

    he gender pay gap has been well studied. Without a doubt, men on average work more and earn more than women do. There is very clearly a gender earnings gap.

    Feminists however misrepresent this, claiming it shows women earn less than men for the same, equal work, when that’s not at all the case. Paying women less for equal work has been illegal since 1963.

    Women on average work fewer hours, spend less time in the workforce, choose lower earning jobs, etc. Obviously, these decisions result in lower overall pay. This is not unique to women. Men who work fewer hours, take time out if the workforce and choose lower paying jobs also earn less.

  • Anonymous
    12 months ago

    The gender wage gap no longer exists in America. Plenty of independent studies have confirmed this.

  • Anonymous
    12 months ago

    The gender pay gap has been well studied. Without a doubt, men on average work more and earn more than women do. There is very clearly a gender earnings gap.

    Feminists however misrepresent this, claiming it shows women earn less than men for the same, equal work, when that’s not at all the case. Paying women less for equal work has been illegal since 1963.

    Women on average work fewer hours, spend less time in the workforce, choose lower earning jobs, etc. Obviously, these decisions result in lower overall pay. This is not unique to women. Men who work fewer hours, take time out if the workforce and choose lower paying jobs also earn less.

    @ Steve: other way around.

  • Greg
    Lv 7
    12 months ago

    It is complex. After you adjust for things like time off to raise a family the gap is much smaller than normally reported, but there are inequalities. Do not let somebody argue that jobs are equivalent when one is working in air conditioning in a building and one is out in the hot/cold weather.

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