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Anonymous asked in Politics & GovernmentPolitics · 6 months ago

Democrats: what do you think of Ilhan Omar sending a letter asking for “restorative justice” for Americans who attempted to join ISIS?

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  • Anonymous
    6 months ago

    So this is factually false.

    What did happen was that Omar was one of about a dozen people who sent letters to a judge asking for leniency in one particular case. A Somali-American man named Abdirahman Daud was one of nine men arrested in the US for attempting to leave the country and join ISIS. Daud was convicted and was looking at a potential forty year prison sentence. Omar was one of over a dozen people, mostly friends and family, who wrote letters to the judge asking for leniency. She has never called for lower prison sentences in general for would be ISIS members and has consistently condemned extremists, including in this very letter.

    Omar wrote that the decades long prison sentence would effectively be a life sentence for Daud as he, and the others, would be old men by the time they were released. She instead argued for a lighter sentence which would include restorative justice. But your formulation misrepresents what that is. You say "restorative justice for Americans who attemnpt to join ISIS". In the English language, the phrase "justice for" usually indicates the person who has been wronged. That's not what's going on here. Restorative justice is a concept where offenders engage in various activities which attempt to make amends, to victims and the community, for wrongs they did. The restorative justice in this case would be for the people victimized by Daud's attempted association with terrorists. The idea is to not merely warehouse these people for some amount of time and then let them loose on society again, but instead to try and fix, or ameliorate, the harm done to the victims and also, crucially, to affect a moral change in the perpetrator. Through the restorative justice process the victim is supposed to be able to heal and the perpetrator is supposed to be reformed. Omar's stance in the Daud case wasn't born of sympathy for ISIS. She's been consistently critical of them. In fact, one of the reasons that she argued against the longer sentence was because doing so would offer a propaganda victory for ISIS by seemingly confirming their claim that the US treats Muslims harshly and doesn't want them in our society. Omar's stance on restorative justice and the possible propaganda value for ISIS of harsh sentences isn't radical, and isn't limited to Muslims such as herself. Terrorism expert Peter Bergen, a white non-Muslim who was IIRC the last western journalist to interview Osama bin Laden, has expressed similar ideas, arguing that the harsh sentences handed down for crimes such as trying to join ISIS can be counter productive by seemingly confirming ISIS propaganda about Americans and also by perhaps making loved ones reluctant to turn in people who they worry might be becoming radicalized. Bergen has also, like Omar, argued for lighter prison sentences which involve more rehabilitation and restorative justice, at least for people whose crimes merely consist of trying to join ISIS, rather than actually fighting or trying to kill anyone.

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  • 6 months ago

    Isn't that a Congressman's / Congress woman's role -- to suggest solutions to specific problems ,for debate .

    You can agree or disagree with her by all means -- fine .

    So what's the problem?

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  • joshua
    Lv 4
    6 months ago

    i think you’re attempting to gin up fake outrage over something that isn’t really a bad idea.

    ISIS and their ideology is cult like and as humans we have a tendency to get swept up in these cults. I think some who joined ISIS should be forgiven and others should not. It’s all case by case. And this isn’t even unprecedented. We had German Americans who went over to the Nazis, survived the war and was forgiven and accepted back into the States with no criminal charges. We’ve taken in former Child Soldiers of the peoples army in the Congo, as refugees and they weren’t even US citizens

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  • 6 months ago

    I wouldn't have written such a letter. She is free to write such a letter because we live in a free society.

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  • Robert
    Lv 6
    6 months ago

    I think it's an appropriate wish from a Muslim Somalian, although I do not feel it is in the best interest of the US.

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  • 6 months ago

    It’s amazing that the representative from Minnesota spends all of her time attacking Israel.

    I thought the biggest rival of Minnesota was Wisconsin? I didn’t know that Israel was there most important issue.

    Is Ilhan Omar representing Minnesota or Somalia?

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  • ?
    Lv 7
    6 months ago

    Trump said this at the North Carolina rally earlier this week. The video for this is linked above under claim 3. This statement is based on a letter written by Omar to appeal for a more lenient sentencing for a man facing life in prison.

    In 2016, nine Somali-American men were convicted of multiple charges for attempting to join and support ISIS, starting in 2014.

    One of the men, Abdurahman Yasin Daud, was found guilty and could have faced life imprisonment. Prosecutors asked the judge to give him a lesser sentence of 30 years in prison, followed by a lifetime of supervised release.

    Omar was one of 13 people who wrote a letter in 2016 to a US judge about Daud, asking for a more lenient sentence.

    In her letter, Omar advocated for “restorative justice”, rehabilitation and leniency over a “long-term prison sentence” for Daud.

    Daud was later sentenced to 30 years in prison, followed by a lifetime of supervised release.

    However, nowhere in the letter does she mention ISIS. She said the men convicted made a “consequential mistake”.

    She said that incarcerating 20-year-old men for 30 or 40 years is “essentially a life sentence” and said society will view them when released with “distrust and revulsion”.

    She said that longer sentences “create an environment in which extremism can flourish, aligning with the presupposition of terrorist recruitment”.

    “This ruling can set a precedent and has the potential to be a landmark case in addressing extremism,” she added in the letter.

    Omar’s letter did not reference the men by name, nor did it mention anything about compassion for other ISIS recruits outside of this case.

    Although she did ask for a more lenient sentence for this particular case involving ISIS recruits, it cannot be said that she has pleaded for compassion for others.

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  • wowser
    Lv 5
    6 months ago

    Hey I saw your welcome home committee

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