Where is the flaw in this argument?
Okay, so my logic professor is saying that this argument is flawed, but I can't find it.
1) Whatever begins to exist must have a cause for its existence.
2) The universe began to exist (as proven by the Big Bang).
3) Therefore, the universe has a cause.
So you test it by asking these questions.
1) Are the premises true?
2) Does the conclusion follow from them?
The answer to both seems to be yes. If both are true than the argument is not flawed. But my professor keeps telling me I am wrong! So where is the flaw? Is it a fallacy I am not aware of?
It needs to be answered by Friday night; my professor is testing me on it. !! Please help!!
- quatt47Lv 76 months ago
I would think that the universe was created as a side effect to the 'big bang'. In other words the 'big bang' did not happen in order to create the universe, it's creation came about as a result. If you talk about cause and effect then, yes the universes is an effect but I would say created , rather than 'caused'.
- 6 months ago
whatever begins to exist must have a cause. okay so this statement is true because water has a cause through evolution and the elements have a cause because of the big bang and the big bang had a cause. the universe has old stars and new stars so basically the statement the universe began to exist is true. therefore, yes, the universe has a cause.
- sparrowLv 77 months ago
It's the very first statement. Just because something caused or propagated its existence is not
the same as it "having a cause" for its existence. They are really two different meanings
and a play on words. It doesn't have to have a cause. It could merely exist.
Another point is that the Universe may not have started to exist. It may have always
been here, with no beginning and no end.
Since neither premise is absolutely true, then the third statement does not hold up.
Saying 'the universe has a cause' sounds like it has a purpose, when what you need
to say is that 'the universe has a cause for coming into existence' NOT, the universe has a cause.
- 7 months ago
The first statement is an assumption. The second statement is a semantic condition (the universe existed before the big bang, just not in the current form). The argument would be less flawed if the two premises began as rhetorical conditons ("if").
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- Anonymous7 months ago
Everything you know must have a cause but maybe it does not apply to the singularity. God is the First Cause.
- Anonymous7 months ago
The universe and everything in it was created by God for His good pleasure. So your prof might say ‘who created God?’... a silly question.
God by definition is uncreated. If he had a beginning, whoever or whatever created him would be considered the real God. Then one would have to ask who created THAT God, etc.
At some point we have to end at an eternal being that did not have a beginning and that is who we call God. Note: You would have to believe that matter can magically self-replicate if you don’t believe in God.
I know people will point to the Big Bang, but then we still have to ask who or what started that. And who or what created the giant mass of stuff that went bang in the first place? God? If not God, then you have to believe that material matter has God-like ability to exist forever and/or self-generate. Seems more reasonable to just believe in God at that point.
- LudwigLv 67 months ago
Here's another quote for you: "A philosopher since Newton, is someone too lazy to go to the lab."
- j153eLv 77 months ago
The first statement is recognized by physics as true. It is therefore a valid premise.
The second statement is not totally a valid premise; the universe is theorized to have come into existence; that part is a valid statement; however, the Big Bang is not "proven;" it is a theory (and not presently falsifiable).
The deductive argument is valid, as the conclusion follows logically from the (partially invalid but logically constructed) premises that, if they were totally true, would constitute a true conclusion. The argument is valid, but not sound or reasonable (as not all of the logically-developed statements are true).
- 7 months ago
Statement one is flawed, we have no way of proving for certain that all things must have a cause, also even though the big bang theory is widely accepted as the most plausible theory we would have no way of knowing if the knowledge we have of the universe is anyway translatable to before the universe existed. for all we know the rules of physics could not exist before the big bang so even if premise 1 and 2 were true within the understanding of the universe it still wouldn't necessarily make 3 true