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Anonymous asked in Society & CultureReligion & Spirituality · 6 months ago

Why do atheists like to say "You can't prove a negative", when if i were to tell you "There is no water in this bucket", all i need to do..?

..is show you the bucket has no water in it and the negative has been proven?

For normal people reasoning with non-atheist logic, isn't it true that the one making the claim has the burden to provide the evidence.

Since an atheist has no evidence for their claim "There is no God", and try to pretend that a negative can't be proven (when it can), isn't it best to do tell them what one of their atheist role models say: "What you assert without evidence can be dismissed without evidence"?

Bonus question: Why do atheists dislike this reasoning?

Update:

Why do questions like this make atheists irrational and assertive, as some answers are showing? Is it embarrassment that cause atheists to be this way? Shame? Why do they try so hard to avoid answering the question? Isn't it true their poor logic has been exposed?

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  • Anonymous
    6 months ago

    You're assuming members of the Atheist religion are logical or even comprehend logic.

    This.. is a mistake, a big one.

  • sasha
    Lv 7
    6 months ago

    Its a shame people don't understand basic logic, but still try to argue logically.

    Atheists don't claim there is no god, atheists simply don't believe any gods exist. That is not a claim.

    Theists say God does exist - that is a claim and therefore the burden of proof is on you.

    You assert God exists, but you can't prove it. So your assertion can be dismissed.

    Atheists love that reasoning, its sad you don't understand it.

  • 6 months ago

    The tenet is you can't prove a Universal negative. I don't know why people forget the 'u' word. I can prove there is no water in your bucket. I can't prove there is no water in all buckets.

  • 6 months ago

    You train of reasoning is faulty in that an assertion that the water bucket is empty is NOT a negative claim; it is a positive claim. You can disprove that positive claim by showing the bucket to contain water. But the claim that God does not exist is basically unprovable, and I believe that atheists should not make that claim. I am an atheist who does not believe in God, and I'm betting that you can't show me water in your metaphorical bucket.

    • PhotonX
      Lv 7
      6 months agoReport

      <I believe that atheists should not make that claim> As do I, but then, I'm not a gnostic atheist to start with, but an agnostic one. But I doubt ❀✿☺Flowercunt☺✿❀ could find her a s s with both hands, even if it's as big as I imagine it must be, never mind comprehend basic Logic 101.

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  • Anonymous
    6 months ago

    You can indeed prove some negatives, if their domains are limited enough. We could observe the entire contents of a bucket and state definitively that it doesn't contain water. Or we could go through a jar of marbles and prove that none of them are red.

    So it is indeed an overstatement to say "You can't prove a negative". Their error is likely due to interpreting "a negative" to mean a universal negative, that something is not the case anywhere in the entire universe.

  • 6 months ago

    Guffaw!! Oh looky.....Another dumbass ignorant Christer who hasn't even a clue that they're stupid dumbass and ignorant.

    Eye roll

    • 6 months agoReport

      Yes... proving a bucket has no water in it is impossible...
      🙄

  • 6 months ago

    Context matters.

    If someone is being asked to 'prove' the non existence of a god that has been defined in the way that theists usually define their gods, then "You can't prove a negative" is a valid answer in this context.

    Negatives can only be 'proved' when the parameters are very clearly defined and very restricted.

  • 6 months ago

    "the bucket has no water" is a positive....The bucket exists

    The trouble with God is that you can't demonstrates he exists; if one can't prove he exists, then one can't prove he doesn't exist.

    That's a very different thing from proving the bucket contains no water.

  • 6 months ago

    You need to learn the difference between a universal negative and a limited negative.

    "There is no water in this bucket" is quite different from "Water doesn't exist anywhere."

    If I opened the drawer of my nightstand and didn't find a god there, would that prove that no god exists?

    • PhotonX
      Lv 7
      6 months agoReport

      Have you noticed how she leaves off her condescending 'dears' when she's posting anonymous atheist-baiting questions? I suspect that subconsciously she knows she's being bad; I guess she's hoping Jesus won't notice that she's actively alienating nonbelievers as long as she posts anonymously. Twit.

  • 6 months ago

    Prove you don't owe me one million dollars...or pay back

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