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Anonymous asked in Society & CultureReligion & Spirituality · 6 months ago

When people say there is testimonial evidence for the bible isn't it really them just citing another character from the same book?

It would be like stating that Superman exists because Lois Lane saw him fly

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Let the deflection begin.

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  • Jea
    Lv 7
    6 months ago
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    Exactly.

    Why haven't they figured that out is the question.

    • Jea
      Lv 7
      6 months agoReport

      I don't Google my responses. Open debate, First point. where is this god you brag about. And why doesn't it ever do anything? Once you explain why those facts exist, we'll chat.

  • 6 months ago

    Yes if the testimony is from the bible. People claim testimonies outside the bible even today, and while these are real people, it seems to be a case of assigning a God to their personal experience making it useless to skeptics.

  • 6 months ago

    Not necessarily, dear one. Every year millions experience God for themselves. Every year millions learn for themselves that the Bible is basically true. Don't delude yourself with wishful thinking. Know God for yourself, through your own experiences with him. That's the logical thing to do.

  • 6 months ago

    I see you have no idea what "testimonial evidence" is. It is evidence given in a court law. Having Lois in a comic state a fact about Superman would not be "testimonial evidence."

    What you are trying to say is that the Bible can be used to support itself. However that is also an error. A text can be used to support itself. A study of the text would be able to show whether it was consistent in its teachings and facts all the way through. And the Bible is.

    The other reason that the Bible can support itself is because it is not the work of a single author. Rather it is a collection of over 60 texts written by over 40 authors across an 1800 year period on three different continents, many different culture and in three languages. Many of the authors never read anything written by the other authors.

    And yet they somehow managed to develop a single, unified theology, use the same name of God, share much of the same imagery, and have the same visions and encounters with God. Not humanly possible.

    As such the Bible does validate itself. As would any text that is true.

    IF you were to find writings that over 40 people claimed to have done the same experiment and had the same results separate of each other over 1800 years, we would probably conclude that they had found a scientific "fact." But when presented by over 40 authors who all had the same encounter with the same God and gotten the same results over 1800, you reject it because it is "religion".

    Yes, the Bible can valid itself. That is not a logic fallacy as you seem to think.

    • Jea
      Lv 7
      6 months agoReport

      Double standard all the way eh?

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  • 6 months ago

    Through time many things has occurred and they were written in history books, science books, etc. And you believe those text books information through another character from the same book that those things happened. The Bible is no different. Of course we didn't live in bible times, but neither did we live when the first president was around. We believe it's true cause people have seen him and the word has passed on til today.

    Not because you can't see something, it isn't true. Also when there's evidence, it has to be true.

  • 6 months ago

    No, it is possible to find references to the events in the New Testament from sources outside the Bible. Quoting those sources would be 'testimonial evidence'. One such author was the Jewish historian Josephus, who lived and wrote as a contemporary of many of the NT authors.

    I believe what you are referring to is called "Historicity" or "Historical Anthropology". A example OUTSIDE of the Bible might be finding a reference to Culture A when digging up artifacts in a city belonging to Culture B. If you found evidence of a trade agreement between the King of Susa and the Pharoah of Egypt, that would be evidence that both cultures at least existed and did business.

  • 6 months ago

    You know, the faith comes from faith alone, and we in the faith do not need explain to you why, or how we believe. If you are too ignorant to see the truth, and prefer to believe your Calagastian, then do so; but we have all rights of man, since they were given by God, not man.

  • 6 months ago

    Are you aware that there are 66 books that, together, make up the whole Bible? They were written by some 40 men over a period of 1,600 years, so there's no way the authors of the earlier books could confabulate with the authors of the later books, not even in pre-Christian times.

    Further, there are genealogical lists provided, meticulously preserved by the nation of Israel over the centuries, and those deal with actual people, not fictional characters. This makes your illustration about Superman and Louis Lane totally inappropriate. Have you any real idea about the originality of those 66 books, yet how amazingly they combine when put within the one cover emblazoned 'The Holy Bible'?

  • 6 months ago

    and yet you accept history and science books with no more credibility, without blinking an eye

    the hypocrisy of Atheism

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  • Anonymous
    6 months ago

    Of course, yes.

  • 6 months ago

    Testimonial evidence is nothing more than "hearsay" unless it can be backed up by something reliably testable.

    "If you can't show it... you don't know it."

    • bender_xr217
      Lv 7
      6 months agoReport

      @Fireball: How do you know what I have or haven't done? Also... prove it, or else it's just hear say.

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