At the moment the parts which say that from the line of Ismael God would bring forth a Prophet, a giver of the Law, to create a people who would be too numerous to count.
(hint .... in order for this to be a distinct and unique people, they would not, therefore, be Christians .... who came from the line of Isaac and Jacob)
comment. Hi daylily61
Genesis 16:7-16 New International Version (NIV)
7 The angel of the Lord found Hagar near a spring in the desert; it was the spring that is beside the road to Shur. 8 And he said, “Hagar, slave of Sarai, where have you come from, and where are you going?”
10 The angel added, “I will increase your descendants so much that they will be too numerous to count.”
11 The angel of the Lord also said to her:
“You are now pregnant and you will give birth to a son.
You shall name him Ishmael,[a] for the Lord has heard of your misery.
12 He will be a wild donkey of a man; his hand will be against everyone
and everyone’s hand against him, and he will live in hostility toward[b] all his brothers.”
15 So Hagar bore Abram a son, and Abram gave the name Ishmael to the son she had borne. 16 Abram was eighty-six years old when Hagar bore him Ishmael.
Does it not say this in your copy? So it was from Hagar that this people were descendant and not Sarah. I am interested in why you were unaware of this. So whoever this people are, the hand of God was and is upon them. You would therefore expect them to be ........... grateful?
Deuteronomy 18 King James version
18 I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him.
19 And it shall come to pass, that whosoever will not hearken unto my words which he shall speak in my name, I will require it of him.
20 But the prophet, which shall presume to speak a word in my name, which I have not commanded him to speak, or that shall speak in the name of other gods, even that prophet shall die.
21 And if thou say in thine heart, How shall we know the word which the Lord hath not spoken?
22 When a prophet speaketh in the name of the Lord, if the thing follow not, nor come to pass, that is the thing which the Lord hath not spoken, but the prophet hath spoken it presumptuously: thou shalt not be afraid of him.
I appreciate that this prophecy of a new Prophet is somewhat contentious. However, although it has been argued by many that this was referring to Jesus, there are some peculiar statements contained therein which don't quite add up to that conclusion. As far as I recall there is not a single mention from Jesus, in the New Testament, that He had actually been told to say anything. Jesus spoke with power and He spoke in parables. However, did He ever claim that The Lord God had said or commanded ... thus? And why would God threaten to kill Jesus if the words He spoke were not as He had been commanded?
Again, as far as I recall, Jesus only gave two commands, to "Love the Lord thy God" and "To love thy neighbor."
From that one might conclude that Jesus could not have been the Prophet mentioned as He gave no indication whatsoever of having been commanded to say anything? Of course, I am open to other opinions on this matter but in any eventuality, that people, too numerous to count, cannot possibly be from Isaac considering what was said in Genesis. So what we would appear to have, very clearly here, are two separate promises of numerous descendants, one made to Abraham and the other to Hagar through Ishmael = Two numerous peoples, one by covenant and the other by the spoken Word.
My conclusion, reading through what the Lord had spoken, was that this Prophet ..... was an ordinary man, like Moses. We know that Jesus was NOT an ordinary man, obviously.
"or that shall speak in the name of other gods, even that prophet shall die."
About Jesus? The Holy Spirit made flesh? Other gods?
Interesting, also, is the fact that it was reported that when the Prophet Muhammad (saw) received revelation His brow was almost fevered with sweat.
"We have all heard of the remarkable physical changes that were apparent on the Prophet’s face whenever he received a Quranic revelation from on high. Those who were present would see his face turn red and he would feel so hot that sweat drops would appear on his forehead. He would also become heavy to the extent that his thigh would press hard against the thigh of the person next to him. If he was riding, his mount would lay down. At the same time, noises like the buzzing of bees would be heard near his face (these physical experiences are confirmed in an authentic hadith related by Bukhari, Muslim and others). These manifestations would eventually subside and the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) would relax and recite the Quranic verses he had received."
In view of the deadly seriousness of what was written in Deuteronomy, this change would be quite understandable ..... ?