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Why are liberals pro-palestine when palestinian society is more conservative and right wing than Israel?

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  • TNO
    Lv 7
    10 months ago
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    I think a lot of it has to do with the narrative that Israel vs. Palestine is depicted akin to "white people vs. colored people", "colonizer vs. colonized", and "European vs. Asians/Africans". While both the Jews and the Arabs are minority populations in the West, the Jews as a people have integrated to the point where some see them as incredibly privileged rather than oppressed as people associate with Palestinians, Arabs and/or Muslims. Because of the tropes a lot of people who are liberal use in other conflicts and situations, people look at the Arab-Israel conflict and make assumptions that aren't so nuanced.

    Because they're viewing this with the concerns to protect minority populations (from a Western perspective), that just makes them want to be pro-Palestine rather than be pro-Israel. Some of this may be genuine, but I feel like a lot of people just refer to the "social stack" and just view protecting Muslims above other groups (such as Jews) or protecting the brown people over white people (despite the fact that both Palestinians and Israelis have populations that largely can pass as one another).

    Now, not all liberals are so anti-Israel and a few do criticize Palestinian society for their conservative and right wing stances (particularly the problematic ones, especially regarding LGBT and women's issues). Still, there are a lot of liberals who honestly know nothing about Israel yet go into condemnation of it based on superficial vantage points and misunderstandings.

  • Robert
    Lv 6
    10 months ago

    Hello Asker "Love",

    The Asker has not provided any substantiation for their view on "Palestinian society".

    However, people (often those to the “Left” politically) who support the Palestinians, have likely been hoodwinked into misplaced-compassion, due to successful Palestinian propaganda-falsehoods.

    “PEW Research Center” survey on Democrat and Republican member sympathy between Israel and the Palestine Arabs, indeed shows greater support for Israel’s enemies among Democrats (often also described as "liberal"):

    http://www.people-press.org/2018/01/23/republicans...

    In deploying their propaganda-falsehoods against Israel, the Palestinians usually find they are “pushing at an open door”, many people being Willing to believe them, while being Unwilling to verify if it is factual, due to anti-Semitism (about which they are often in denial).

    Nor therefore do such people require any reasonable or proper moral standard from the Palestinians.

    Why do pro-Palestinians assert falsehood-opinion devoid of any objective-evidence, as “fact”? It is because they assume the reader will likely be anti-Semitic, and thus Willing to accept what they say while Unwilling to demand verification.

    Palestinian propaganda is highly successful; comparable to that of Nazi Germany. In summary, it promotes the falsehood that the Palestinians are “victims”, that the Jews are the (fake) cause of all Palestinian perceived issues;

    whereas in reality:

    > The Palestinians are no “victims”.

    > Rather, the Palestinians are victim-makers.

    The Palestinian education system teaches a false victim-mentality like Nazi propaganda, that the Jews / Israel are the fake-cause of all Palestinian alleged issues (example below):

    https://www.quora.com/What-are-some-examples-of-an...

    Example of Palestinian propaganda that the Jew / Israel, is the (fake) cause of all Palestinian alleged issues:

    The Palestinian Territories have a problem of child sexual abuse, while the Palestinians try to deceive the world it is all Israeli's fault for causing Palestinians “stress” by Israel deploying an economic-blockade – an economic-blockade due to Palestinian rocket attacks (see further down) on Israel:

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11720381

    The “Palestinian National Charter” seeks the expulsion of the Jewish People from the Jews ancestral homeland of Israel.

    (Please see the source which I have put into the “Sources” area of this answer.)

    Many people may tend to have only an “impression” of history, becoming shocked when their attention is drawn to verifiable-facts, are unlikely to change their view, instead becoming emotional, due to having emotionally-invested in unverifiable Palestinian propaganda.

    Israel was Re-established in 1948 following a United Nations Partition Plan accepted by the Jews, but the Palestinian-Arab response was in 1947 to start a civil war and terror, to oppose the U.N. Partition Plan, instead take ALL the land of Israel, and ethnically-cleanse or murder the Jews from the Jews ancestral homeland of Israel.

    In 1948 the Arab countries attacked the newly Re-established State of Israel, but the Arabs lost the war. Jordan then occupied the West Bank and East Jerusalem from which the Jordanians expelled the Jews. Egypt occupied the Gaza strip. Neither country offered these areas to the Palestinians.

    Palestinian propaganda falsely-alleges the Re-establishment of Israel caused: a “great injustice” / “nakba” (“catastrophe” / “disaster”) to the Palestinians.

    In reality:

    > The Palestinians violently rejected the Arab state of the United Nations Partition Plan;

    > Jordan and Egypt occupied the land proposed for an Arab state under the U.N. Partition Plan (approximating to the West Bank and Gaza);

    > BOTH Arabs and Jews, became war-refugees;

    > The Palestinians falsely-claim with no evidence of any such policy that they were expelled from the land; Jews were indeed expelled by the Arabs as policy. Palestinians live and work in Israel.

    Therefore the reader is entitled to be sceptical about Palestinian propaganda falsely-alleging a fantasy-injustice.

    There is no evidence that Israel targets civilians.

    Once the Palestinians had tricked Israel into giving them autonomy of part of the West Bank and the whole of Gaza under the Oslo Accords, the Palestinians since:

    > Do not sincerely negotiate any peace treaty.

    > Make an unverifiable false-claim to ALL the land of Israel.

    > Want to expel the Jews from the Jews ancestral-homeland of Israel.

    > Have expelled any Jewish population from all areas under Palestinian control and then falsely-claimed “Apartheid” against Israel !

    > Consider themselves at war with Israel.

    > Attack Israeli Jewish civilians as policy including children (see source below).

    No wonder anti-Semites display such emotional-support for the Palestinians!

    Due to anti-Semitism (about which they may also be in denial) many people, possibly hoodwinked by the successful Palestinian propaganda-lies, do not require any reasonable or proper moral standard from the Palestinians, who cynically whitewash their anti-Jewish hate-war as:

    “uprising”, “defence”, “desperation”, “struggle”, “resistance”:

    - - - - Start of quote: - - - -

    “The Palestinian Authority Martyrs Fund is a fund operated by the Palestinian Authority for the purpose of paying a monthly cash stipend to the families of Palestinians killed, injured or imprisoned for involvement in attacking, assisting in attacking, or planning to attack Israel ...”

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_Authorit...

    - - - - End of quote - - - -

    Here is an example result from the Palestinian on-going anti-Jewish hate-war:

    Israeli girl, Hallel Yaffa Ariel, aged 13, fatally stabbed in her bedroom in West Bank by a Palestinian terrorist, June 30, 2016, The Guardian:

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/jun/30/isra...

    Palestinian rocket attacks on Israeli cities:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_rocket_a...

    The Palestinians use Child Suicide Bombers.

    (Please see the source which I have put into the “Sources” area of this answer.)

    The Palestinians clear schools, designate them officially as “shelters”, and then fire rockets from them aimed at Israeli cities, to draw Israeli retaliatory fire:

    http://www.thetower.org/1955-un-report-confirms-ha...

    People are also mislead due to the “halo-reputation” enjoyed by the Arab-dominated United Nations. U.N. polices are fully-complicit with Palestinian propaganda denying Jewish roots in the land of Israel.

    The U.N. and its structures have for many years been dominated by a block-vote of up to 56 Arab and additional Islamic-aligned countries (e.g. U.N. member states that are also members of the “Organization of Islamic Cooperation”), plus the influence of Arab oil money; compared to Israel being just one country.

    The consequence of the Arab domination of the U.N., is that the U.N. falsely-regards the Jewish People as “invaders” and therefore treats the Jews as “thieves” and “illegal-occupiers” of the Jews OWN land (all the areas of land are of the Jewish kingdoms of Judea / Israel), so also illogically of building “illegal-settlements” there; and thus the U.N. regards Palestinian terrorism as: “resistance”.

    Resolutions on Israel by the Arab-dominated U.N. give the appearance of having been drafted for the U.N. by Palestinian-Propaganda-Central in Ramallah. On the following website the reader can learn about Palestinian propaganda that seeks to replace the history of Jewish presence in the Jewish People's ancestral homeland of Israel, with a fake Arab history, with which the Arab-dominated United Nations is now fully-complicit - see (copy to your web browser) - see (copy to your web browser):

    palwatch.org/main.aspx?fi=495

    Thus the reader is entitled to consider that the U.N.’s many anti-Israel resolutions carry zero moral weight.

    Brief historical background:

    The Jewish People are the indigenous people of their ancestral homeland of Israel with unbroken presence there since Biblical times:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographic_history_...

    The Jewish People have had an unbroken presence in their ancestral homeland of Israel since Biblical times, and also previous sovereign states in the land for example the Jewish Hasmonean Kingdom of Judea (including the West Bank, Gaza, and Golan Heights), with its capital of (what is now East) Jerusalem, and independent as at 110 BCE / 753 BH–752 BH:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hasmonean_dynasty

    The “Palestinian” Arabs considering themselves Arab were opposed to being called a “people” until the 1960’s, when they decided it fitted with their intention to steal the land of Israel from its indigenous Jews:

    http://www.targetofopportunity.com/palestinian_tru...

    I hope this helps.

    Robert.

    Source(s): Additional sources to which reference is made in my answer: The “Palestinian National Charter” seeks the expulsion of the Jewish People from the Jews ancestral homeland of Israel: http://avalon.law.yale.edu/20th_century/plocov.asp The Palestinians use children as Child Suicide Bombers: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_suicide_bomber...
    • Robert
      Lv 6
      10 months agoReport

      Source for the latter comment: (The full view of the coin has ancient Hebrew letters above the Menorah.) It is sourced from (at last looking) the seventh image down, at:
      https://www.jewishgiftplace.com/Ancient-Menorahs.html

  • Anonymous
    10 months ago

    Russia is an ally to Palestine. Conservative support Russia instead of the United States.

    • Richard
      Lv 7
      10 months agoReport

      TRUMP, not Republicans, supports PUTIN.

  • Joshua
    Lv 5
    10 months ago

    I’m anti oppression and occupation. Conservatism vs liberalism doesn’t factor into it.

    Interesting how the Children is the Haulicost have created their own concentration camp out of the Gaza Strip....Lessons learned from the Nazis...0

    • Robert
      Lv 6
      10 months agoReport

      To understand what is the true meaning of a "Concentration Camp", the reader can learn about Nazi concentration camps here:
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_concentration_camps

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  • 10 months ago

    Why do conservatives never elaborate on their Fox News talking points? Is it because they never have any meaningful input of their own?

    • Grumpy10 months agoReport

      When did I try to convince you of that?

  • 10 months ago

    Good question. Also, why do liberals defend muslims so vehemently yet insult Christians all the time. They have many of the same beliefs, including about homosexuality.

    Why? Because it serves their purpose for now. Agenda 21

    and change your question back to politics. Some leftist azz moved it

  • 10 months ago

    I could not care less about the Middle East.

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