Anonymous asked in Politics & GovernmentPolitics · 2 years ago

If you think about it, aren't presidents immune to all crime as long as they have a majority in Congress?


Think about it.

1. President commits a crime.

2. Gets detained or impeached.

3. Steps down.

4. Vice president becomes president.

5. New president pardons old president.

6. New president Invokes Section 2 of Amendment XXV to select the old president as his new VP.

7. Majority of Congress approve.

8. New president steps down, making the old president president again.

9. President invokes Amendment XXV again to get his VP back.

10. Done!

Update 2:

Don't just cry and say "that's stupid!" or "that won't work!!!"

If you think this won't work... explain it. Tell me why it won't work.

If you pardon a president, it's as if they didn't commit a crime, so they can be appointed as VP, and the Amendment does say all they need is Congressional approval.

9 Answers

  • Dale
    Lv 6
    2 years ago

    How does a majority in Congress protect them?

  • 2 years ago

    Any president is immune from prosecution as long as they are in office UNLESS the crimes are so blatant that even their party's majority require congress to put for impeachment proposal and pass it. It happened with Nixon...

  • 2 years ago

    Nixon was the president who came closest to being impeached and removed from office. (Yes, Clinton actually was impeached and Nixon wasn't, but Clinton's impeachment was just political theater. They knew they didn't have nearly enough votes to remove him from office.)

    In Nixon's case, he resigned when REPUBLICAN congressional leaders came to him to tell him they could no longer support him. They feared losing their own seats. They weren't even the majority in Congress! They were thinking about saving their own butts.

    That could very well happen to Trump also, especially if there's a big 'Blue Wave' in November. They're really sweating it at this point. You can tell by how strongly they deny it.

    Presidents with majorities in Congress are only immune when party is the most important consideration. That's true today, especially with the Republicans, but it's not universally true throughout our history.

    I have the feeling that the Republicans are heading for a huge crash. They are working very hard to define themselves as The Party of White People, and that is a really bad long-term strategy with white people becoming a minority. This is like, you know how they say a drunk has to 'hit bottom' before he can reform? When the GOP hits bottom, if it doesn't just go out of business altogether, clearer heads in the party will realize it has to be more inclusive, more reasonable, etc. They will be MUCH less likely to elect a turd-in-the-punchbowl like Trump and to defend his reckless amorality.

  • 2 years ago

    A majority willing to back them, yes.

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  • y
    Lv 7
    2 years ago

    Unless one is in the situation that Trump has found himself in, then basically you are right. Clinton is a good example of that line of thought.

    Trump however, does not have the republicans walking in lockstep with him, does not have enough of a majority in the senate to say they have control of it. There are enough Never Trumpers and enough republicans that dislike Trump, that could easily be swayed to jump on him.

  • Jeff D
    Lv 7
    2 years ago

    Congress has to face the voters too, at some point. If the crimes are egregious enough, Congress won't go along.

    Also, the Senate requires a 2/3rds majority to convict on an impeachment.

  • Jeff S
    Lv 7
    2 years ago

    Only if the Congress is as corrupt as the president!!!

  • Adam D
    Lv 7
    2 years ago

    Impeachment is specifically listed as an exception to the right of the president to grant pardons.

  • Anonymous
    2 years ago

    You're right - - no crimes can be committed against a sitting President

    Unless the opposite party controls Congress

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