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Does John 1:1 teach that God is a trinity?

Update:

It doesn't seem to teach that. Trinitarians point to John 1:1 as proof that Jesus is God. But, the Greek manuscript says that "the word was with the god, and god was the word.".

Update 2:

There are no capital letters in ancient unical Greek, so the fact that the first word "god" has a "the" in front of it, but the second word "god" does not, shows that one refers to identity, while the other refers to description. The word "god", or other words, in the predicate with no "the" in front of it is used many times to describe people, like Acts 28:6.

Update 3:

Jehovah's witnesses are not the only people who recognize this distinction. Other translations say that the word is divine. Moffatt and American Translation are two of these, and there are about 50 others

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However, John 1:18 states that no man has seen (the) God at any time. Men have seen Jesus - even history has confirmed that. So The God who no man has seen is not Jesus.

Update 4:

There are many in the Bible who are called god or God - human judges, angels, pagan gods, Satan, and Jesus Christ. "God" means "mighty one", and this title, god, applies to all of them, either good or bad. So to distinguish the true God from Jesus or anyone else, you have to look for the personal name.

Update 5:

Jesus said his Father is greater than he is. John 14:28 Jesus said that his Father knew things that neither he nor the angels knew. Matthew 24:36 Jesus called his Father the only true God John 17:3 Even in heavenly glory, Jesus' Father is still his God. Revelation 3:2,12 Again, Jesus' words.

Update 6:

The earliest and most accepted trinity doctrine is that the three persons are co-equal, co-eternal, and co-almighty. Jesus said his Father is greater than he is. John 14:28 Jesus said that his Father knew things that neither he nor the angels knew. Matthew 24:36 Jesus called his Father the only true God John 17:3 Jesus actually died for our sins, but God does not die. 1 Corinthians 15:3 Matthew 20:28 Even in heavenly glory, Jesus' Father is still his God. Revelation 3:2,12 Again, Jesus' words.

Update 7:

So you tell me - does this scripture teach that God is a trinity?

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  • TeeM
    Lv 7
    2 years ago
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    Edit to Donald:

    How many gods are there? Notice what Paul tells us.

    (1 Corinthians 8:5, 6) “. . ., just as there are many “gods” and many “lords,” 6 there is actually to us one God, the Father, . . .”

    Notice what Jehovah tells us.

    (Psalm 82:6, 7) “ 6 “I have said, ‘You are gods, All of you are sons of the Most High.  7 But you will die just as men do; And like any other prince you will fall!’””

    So Jehovah calls the human princes and judges, gods and sons of the Most High.

    Jesus called the pharisees, gods at

    (John 10:34-36) “34 Jesus answered them: “Is it not written in your Law, ‘I said: “You are gods”’? 35 If he called ‘gods’ those against whom the word of God came—and yet the scripture cannot be nullified— 36 do you say to me whom the Father sanctified and sent into the world, ‘You blaspheme,’ because I said, ‘I am God’s Son’?”

    A better questions is "how many of all these gods is the only true God?

    (John 17:3) “3 This means everlasting life, their coming to know you, the only true God, and the one whom you sent, Jesus Christ.”

    Whom should we worship?

    (Ephesians 1:3) “3 Praised be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ,. . .”

    To whom should we pray for wisdom?

    (Ephesians 1:16, 17) “. . .. I continue mentioning you in my prayers, 17 that the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give you a spirit of wisdom and of revelation in the accurate knowledge of him.”

    According to John, who is God? Jesus or his God and Father?

    (Revelation 1:6) “6 and he [Jesus] made us [his disciples] to be a kingdom, priests to his [Jesus'] God and Father [Jehovah] —. . .”

    You aren't arguing with Jehovah's Witnesses but with Jehovah, Jesus, Paul and John.

    Donald, may Jehovah, the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ grant you wisdom and understanding; may you come to worship the Father in spirit and truth.

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    No; especially since the idea of God being a trinity isn't found in the bible.

    At John 1:1 the question is “Should “God(2) be capitalized making it a title, or should it be ‘a god’ making it a quality / class?

    • Let’s start with Greek grammar since that is the language it was written in.

    (NAB footnote:) “Was God: lack of a definite article with "God" in Greek signifies predication rather than identification.”

    Merriam-Webster:

    predication a: the expression of action, state, or quality; assignment of something to a class

    Thus in Greek the grammar denotes a quality or class, NOT WHO as a title or identification.

    Harper’s Bible Dictionary: “He declares that the logos is a constituent of the divine nature”

    “In a beginning was the Word, and the Word was with the God, and a god was the Word.” (Emphatic Diaglott; 1864 word for word translation. ED (w/w))

    Vine’s even states that: “The literal translation: “a god was the word” is entirely misleading.”

    Vine then goes on to try to explain why John didn't mean what he wrote.

    To a trinitarian John's word are misleading, to those who understand God's Word, it is entirely understandable.

    Here is a small sample of the some 52 bibles that translate John 1:1 correctly

    1) In a beginning was the Word, and the Word was with the God, and a god was the Word. 1865 Diaglot NT

    2) Harwood, 1768, "and was himself a divine person"

    3) Newcome, 1808, "and the word was a god"

    4) Thompson, 1829, "the Logos was a god

    5) Goodspeed, 1939, "the Word was divine

    6) Torrey, 1947, "the Word was god

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    • Donald
      Lv 6
      2 years agoReport

      JESUS is not a little god (and HE is also not Michael a mighty angel). time is short. you are here to learn not teach. to fix what is broken. the time is short for doing thus...........

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  • rac
    Lv 7
    2 years ago

    No, not at all. It declares that Jesus was with the Father in the beginning and that the Father sent His Son to earth to be the God of this earth, to create and to preside over what happens here.

    Source(s): my LDS biblical opinion
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  • David
    Lv 7
    2 years ago

    it does not teach that God is a Trinity since it only mentions God the Father and God the Son. But it confirms that they are indeed one. The Holy Spirit is confirmed in other passages as the third member of the Trinity. John 1:1 sets the stage for John's proclamation of Jesus as God. It does so very well.

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    • 😌
      Lv 6
      2 years agoReport

      Jesus prayed to the Father and said "May they be ONE Just as WE ARE ONE. In other words, may we all be One in unity just like Jesus and Jehovah are one in unity. To top it off, Jesus was praying, not to himself, but to his Father in Heaven about this.

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  • 2 years ago

    John 1:1 mentions two persons. A trinity, of necessity, means three of something.

    No, there is no teaching in John 1:1 of a trinity.

    Hannah J Paul

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  • 2 years ago

    It certainly supports the Trinity Doctrine.

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  • 2 years ago

    Revelations 1:1 teaches at the trinity isn't true.

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  • 2 years ago

    No. It can't. Remember that the New Testament makes three foundational claims about Christ:

    1. He is Jehovah incarnate, but not the God he worshiped and prayed to.

    2. He is the creation of God.

    3. He is the begotten son of God.

    Jesus had a different origin than God and is no more a part of him than we are of our own fathers.

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  • Anonymous
    2 years ago

    I think it's supposed to read, God is The Father of The Trinity.

    The Trinity are the three judges on your life, after death. ...

    The Father - God

    the son - God's 3rd son, lord satan

    the holy spirit - God's 700 billionth son, the Christian heaven

    The only way past those three judges, is through your faith in Jesus as your savior from their judgement.

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  • Anonymous
    2 years ago

    "john" ( not his real name) , was an anonymous greek who lived in the 3rd century , he knew nothing about happenings 300 years earlier

    • David
      Lv 7
      2 years agoReport

      John, his real name, was an apostle who walked with Jesus for three years, heard his teachings, saw his miracles, witnessed his crucifixion, and saw the resurrected Christ. Through it all, he came to the realization of the deity of Christ. It was so important to him he had to write about it.

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  • 2 years ago

    No, it says that Jesus is God.

    • Kilroy J
      Lv 5
      2 years agoReport

      It says Jesus is 'A' god in the original Greek.

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