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Anonymous asked in Society & CultureReligion & Spirituality · 2 years ago

3 wise men visited Jesus? After checking, the Bible does not give a number nor calls them wise but they are astrologers. What have u found?

Update:

Thank you for comments.

Yes, I see. Some say wise others say maggi.magoi or magi.

Zoroastrianism is dualism, the Deities of ancient Medes and the Persia which was the worship of two independent divine beings, one good and the other evil. Not a pure teaching according to ancient Judaism.

Update 2:

Evidently Magi is the connective word to Magic.

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  • 2 years ago

    Its in the translation. You have to be wise if you want to be an astrologer.

  • 2 years ago

    The details about them and their names come from early tradition, oral stories.

  • 2 years ago

    No, we don't know how many there were. The King James Bible calls them wise men. They knew enough about the ancient prophecies to understand that the King of Israel had been born. They may have been from Israelite colonies in the East, even from the Ten Tribes.

  • 2 years ago

    Here is something I found of interest when first I learned it: the term translated in many Bibles as “wise men” is magi. Many here have already pointed that out. But here is something additionally noteworthy: this is the same Greek word used at Acts 13:6-8 in describing BarJesus or Elymas. That same Greek word – magi – is here rendered “sorcerer.”

    Many attempt to romanticize the magi or the meaning of the word when discussing the account of the astrologers who came from the east. The truth is, they were pagans who worshipped pagan gods and who practiced something that God’s word repeatedly condemns.

    Some people feel God led the magi to Jesus. Look carefully: the magi went to Jerusalem of their own accord – the ‘star’ did not guide them to Jerusalem. As astrologers, they said they "saw the star when they were in the east." They saw the star before they even left home. Upon arriving in Jerusalem, they asked about the birthplace of the one born king of the Jews. The account says many in Jerusalem were agitated upon hearing this, including Herod who - himself, a nominal Jew, - inquired of the religious leaders to ascertain the birthplace. Herod then secretly summoned the magi, carefully ascertained from them the time of the star’s appearance back home in the east, did the math and personally sent the magi to Bethlehem. By the time the magi got there, Jesus was in a house (as others have mentioned) and could have been as much as two years old. Well, did it take the magi two years to get from their home in the east to Jerusalem? No. Did it take the magi two years to get from Jerusalem to Bethlehem? Obviously not. What’s the point? Here is the point: they did not arrive on the day of Jesus’ birth. They did not arrive anywhere near the date of Jesus' birth. Yet, if this star was so knowing, so powerful, so whatever, it would have made sure they got there on the child’s birthday. They did not. It is not until Herod sends them to Bethlehem that this “star which they saw in the east, went before them, till it came and stood over where the young child was.” Matthew 2:9 – King James.

    Some say God used the magi to help protect the child. Nothing could be further from the account. God simply told Joseph to take his family to Egypt (where a large population of Jews already lived). This is what protected the child, not the magi. True, God warned them in a dream not to go back to Herod. But that was not his means of protecting his son.

    Some people call the magi astronomers rather than astrologers. Is there a difference? Most assuredly. Consider what the Imperial Bible-Dictionary (Vol. II, p. 139) says: “According to Herodotus the magi were a tribe of the Medes [I, 101], who professed to interpret dreams, and had the official charge of sacred rites . . . they were, in short, the learned and priestly class, and having, as was supposed, the skill of deriving from books and the observation of the stars a supernatural insight into coming events . . . Later investigations tend rather to make Babylon than Media and Persia the center of full-blown magianism.” Further, Justin Martyr, Origen, and Tertullian, commented in connection with Matthew 2:1, “thought of maʹgoi as astrologers. Tertullian (“On Idolatry,” IX) says: “We know the mutual alliance of magic and astrology. The interpreters of the stars, then, were the first . . . to present Him [Jesus] ‘gifts.’” (The Ante-Nicene Fathers, 1957, Vol. III, p. 65) The name Magi became current “as a generic term for astrologers in the East.”—The New Funk & Wagnalls Encyclopedia, 1952, Vol. 22, p. 8076." Yes, this is not astronomy. Astronomy is a science that studies celestial objects and phenomena – and has nothing to do with divination, fortune-telling and such.

    You are right, the Bible does not give a number. Neither does the Bible romanticize the visit, or the giving of their gifts, or what brought them there. Here is another interesting tidbit: while some folks point to what the magi did as the basis for gift-giving at Christmas time, history shows that something else is clearly involved. It was customary for people, high-ranking and otherwise, to bring gifts to royalty. See, please, 1 Samuel 10:24-27, 1 Kings 10:1, 10 and 13, and 2 Kings 20:12. Notice that among these examples is one of pagans bringing gifts to the King of Judah.

    Notice the divinely wise counsel at Proverbs 14:15: “A naive person believes everything, but the shrewd person discerns his steps.” New English Translation

    Christians must be shrewd and discern the result of every step taken. They must make sure that whatever they are doing does not bring dishonor to our Lord Jesus and our Heavenly Father. We cannot afford to simply gulp down practices because they stir our emotions and appear to our eyes so pretty.

    Hannah J Paul

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  • Art
    Lv 7
    2 years ago

    Call them Astronomers ( the Persians were good at that) *** astrologers/kings. No number is given just the nature of the gifts, Gold , Frankincense and Myrrh. With those gifts given Mary , Joseph and little baby Jesus would make Trump look like a pauper.

    Mark was the first gospel, take that as being as close to the truth as it gets ( till we discover the M manuscript) all else contain embellishments added over time. (She turned me into a newt...... well I got better). The king James Bible Is probably 3 rd translation but in some parts may be 4 or 5 th hand. That is translated from one language to another. Hebrew , Greek, Aramaic , Latin and then to English.

  • 2 years ago

    They did not find Jesus in the manger, they found him later in a house, according to the Bible.

    Have you seen pictures or displays showing three “wise men” visiting the baby Jesus along with the shepherds?

    At Christmastime such scenes are common. But they are not accurate. Those “wise men” were really astrologers, practicers of what God condemns.

    Let’s see what happened when they arrived. The Bible says: “When they went into the house they saw the young child with Mary its mother.” So Jesus by then was no longer a baby in a manger; he was a child living with Joseph and Mary in a house!

    Matt 2:11 says: And when they went into the house, they saw the young child with Mary his mother, and falling down, they did obeisance to him. They also opened their treasures and presented him with gifts, gold and frankincense and myrrh.

  • David
    Lv 7
    2 years ago

    They are referred to only as Magi, with no mention of numbers except that the term is plural. So more than one, but unknowable the total. That's one reason I don;t like to sing "We Three Kings" another is that it doesn't refer to them as royalty. Clearly they were scholars and religious men. Little else can be determined. Except that they were warned by God in a dream not to return by way of Herod, but to go a different route. So God was working through the Magi to preserve the life of the young Messiah, Jesus.

  • 2 years ago

    The King James Bible calls them, "wise men," in Matthew 2:1 and 2:7.

    • Spurgeon2 years agoReport

      They can navigate to a stable after travelling for months and they are not wise?

      Dont make me cry! they were too smart and worldly wise to be duped by King Harrod!

      Of course it was a camel caravan but the narrative only
      mentions the three who came with presents.not the whole group.

  • 2 years ago

    Those “wise men” were really astrologers, practicers of what God condemns.The Bible says: “When they went into the house they saw the young child with Mary its mother.” So Jesus by then was no longer a baby in a manger; he was a child living with Joseph and Mary in a house!

    How did the astrologers find Jesus?— They were led by a “star,” not to Bethlehem, but first to King Herod in Jerusalem. The Bible says that Herod wanted to find Jesus to kill him. Now think about this. Who do you think made what appeared to be a star guide the astrologers to Herod?— It was not the true God, Jehovah, but his adversary, or enemy, Satan the Devil!

    Today, Satan tries to make people think of Jesus only as a helpless baby. But the angel Gabriel told Mary: “He will rule as king . . . , and there will be no end of his kingdom.” Now Jesus is ruling as King in heaven, and he will soon destroy all of God’s enemies. That is what we should remember about Jesus, and we need to share this with others.

    Source(s): jw.org
  • Anonymous
    2 years ago

    MAGI , probably 'priests' of Zorastrianism, the most pure religion, influenced highly by Judaism

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