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Anonymous asked in Arts & HumanitiesHistory · 2 years ago

Why are people starting to embrace flat earth theory again?

Most people today have no idea of how difficult or significant it was for the humanists (i.e. Copernicus, Galileo, Kepler, Cusanus, Tycho, Ficino, Campanella) to establish that the world was a globe and that the Earth revolved around the Sun. And now we are seeing a frightening relapse into fringe speculations. That is simply doing a disservice to their memory and overturning the results of the Copernican revolution.

It's true that understanding of this universe is principally realized by Nature and by scientific observation, not by dogma or by the arbitrary use of reason. But it's worth pointing out that many of these humanists had a reliable, working basis for their theories. Some of them paid homage to the ancient Greek philosophies, particularly to the Pythagoreans.

Update:

It's dangerous to assume that the pre-Socratics, such as Thales, advocated a flat earth, when he especially greatly admired Pythagoras and taught him. Why would Pythagoras diverge from his teachings and proclaim a spherical earth? Unless the pre-Socratics were not permitted to divulge their secrets.

Update 2:

In other words, the pre-Socratics transmitted rational truths to mankind in the form of symbols and it was granted to Pythagoras to make them known. Democritus and Aristotle wanted to give the masses a view of life they would be content with so they diverged from Pythagoras and Plato respectively.

Update 3:

It's no coincidence that Aristotle represents Thales idea of the earth resting upon water as a literal conception, trying to explain to his readers how Thales could have possibly arrived at this view from a physicalist outlook.

Update 4:

What Thales intended to convey was thoroughly symbolic. To him has been attributed the prediction of eclipses. He has been noted as the first among the Greeks to investigate the universe, as the founder of this type of philosophy.

Update 5:

My rejection of flat earth theory is based on this principle.

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  • Andrew
    Lv 7
    2 years ago
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    The flat Earth theory is one that has been in existence for thousands of years. In fact, it ought to be remembered that it was a belief that was almost unanimously held by all of the peoples, societies and civilisations in the world at one point in time. The globular model of Earth gained a lot of popularity in the Western world and we have altered many of the scientific theories that we have adopted in order to perpetuate it. So too have we been all too willing to concede that many of the vert tenets of modern science such as gravity for example, are simple theories and not actual scientific laws.

    Only the tiniest fraction of human beings have ever been out of the Earth's atmosphere meaning that only the tiniest fraction of human beings has ever seen the true shape and form of the Earth. Many of those people have provided us with very conflicting pieces of testimony while others have been loath to divulge any specific information when direct questions have been presented to them. This is obviously something that has raised eyebrows and caused even people who were previously wholly convinced that the helio-centric model was accurate to doubt themselves and their beliefs.

    Many scientists, including astronomers, geologists, physicists, etc., cannot come to a collective decision on the actual age or shape of the Earth. It's been stated that the Earth is round, that it's spherical, that it's bulbous, that it's elliptical, the theories go on and on. So too do the theories about the speed at which the Earth rotates on its own axis and the speed at which it supposedly revolves around the sun.

    We know the supposed circumference of the Earth, so we can use that figure to estimate its size and its mass. However, on a helio-centric map of the planet (if you insist on referring to it as such), we can see that the distances between certain points down't seem to vary all that much, say for example that points in the southern hemisphere such as Brazil and South Africa are not much farther apart than places in the northern hemisphere such as the east coast of the United States and the west coast of Europe. Yet it's virtually impossible to travel in a straight line from Brazil to South Africa. By sea, vessels traditionally sailed north before making the crossing and modern jetliners still follow the same routes, flying to Arabia or North Africa before making their way south again. Why?

    And what about line of sight, point of perspective versus the supposed curvature of the Earth? Experiments have been conducted and conclusively proven to show that objects situated dozens or in some cases hundreds of miles apart can in some instances be clearly visible one from the other. How can that be? I have personally stood in the foothills of the Alaska ranges and seen mountains which were close to a hundred miles away. And I did not see the very crest jutting up from the surrounding background and foreground - I could see the base from that distance when it should have by the logic espoused by helio-centrics been shrouded behind miles and miles of curvature.

    How does the Earth's surface water manage to remain fixed to the surface of the Earth if the Earth is spinning at thousands of miles per hour? I can leap into the air, yet water molecules remain fixed to the ground?

    We know from detailed star charts left to us by ancient civilisations that some of the stars in the sky have changed position while others have remained constantly fixed. Many scientists are skeptical that our own planet has always had the same alignment in terms of the poles and the tilt of the axis, yet even that changing would not suffice as an answer for why some stars are perfectly in position while others have shifted considerably.

    NASA fully and readily admits that they doctor each and every image that we see. There has never been live footage beamed to us from space in real time. Astronaut testimonials are conflicting, incomplete and inaccurate according to our current understanding of the universe.

    We claim to have landed on the surface of the moon several times yet we have not done so again for decades and other countries have not managed to match that supposed feat.

    Why do people embrace the flat earth theory? Because they have been constantly lied to, misinformed and led astray in nearly every other aspect of their lives. Why should they be convinced that the most basic truths are self-evident?

    • ?2 years agoReport

      My rejection of flat earth theory is based on this principle.

  • 2 years ago

    They aren't - you are just STUPID.

  • JoeC
    Lv 4
    2 years ago

    Because after over a century of unparalleled advancements, we have seemed to have plateaued and are now regressing into mindless stupidity.

  • 2 years ago

    Ignorance makes it easy for people to be manipulated.

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  • John P
    Lv 7
    2 years ago

    "Starting"? Some people never gave up the idea!

  • 2 years ago

    actually it was well known that the earth was a globe long before the time of Copernicus etc. An ancient Greek worked out the shape and size of the earth more or less. Medieval scholars were aware of this, and churchmen did not have any problem with it. That the earth revolved around the sun was more controversial because it seemed to contradict what the Bible says. But to be honest, I don't see that it matters very much if a Few people like to believe the earth is flat, though it does seem baffling in the fact of the evidence.

    • Tina
      Lv 7
      2 years agoReport

      Actually people were less concerned about the Bible than the fact that idea that the earth went round the sun seemed contrary to commonsense. They felt that if the earth was permanently on the move they would have noticed.

  • RR
    Lv 7
    2 years ago

    Only people who would rather believe cranks on YouTube rather than listen to scientists and geographers

  • Anonymous
    2 years ago

    Reported -

    (Use of the word 'embrace' without saying something idiotic about Islam.)

  • Thomas
    Lv 7
    2 years ago

    42% of Americans believe the earth was created less than 10,000 years ago. They believe the Bible is true. They prefer that to the ever-changing views of science. They are against abortion. They elected Donald Trump as President. It is not so much about a specific belief such as whether the earth is flat or not but about an entire way of looking at the world and life. The world is messed up. They choose to worship God and Jesus rather than Galileo.

    • Tina
      Lv 7
      2 years agoReport

      Galileo was a good Catholic and would have been horrified at the idea of anyone worshipping him. His theory about the movement of the earth was also partially wrong. So would you prefer to worship Copernicus - exept that he was also a Catholic and in minor orders.

  • Anonymous
    2 years ago

    I don't know where you are writing from, but education in the US has been in decline for the last 4 decades. When Trickle Down Economics demands the 1% get way more than their fair share of the pie, cuts have had to be made elsewhere. Education and infrastructure spending took the biggest hits. Then in states like Texas they've re-written many text books with a religious, pro-South slant so these kids don't even know their own countries history anymore. Unless we overthrow the neoliberal policies that both parties have been pushing since 1980 I fear what the future holds for the USA.

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