bear "killing" question?

not planning to kill one ;)

but hiking in "bear country"

(european brown bear) so should i take my

12/70 shotgun (with slugs) or my 7,62 mosin nagant with me for protection?

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  • Honest
    Lv 7
    4 years ago

    Europeans are familiar with

    shotguns for outdoor recreation.

    Soviet Era military relics are

    best in places like Finland where

    it had been previously dropped

    by thousands of suddenly dead

    users. Yup, the Finn's will grin

    when they see a Mosin Nagant.

  • 4 years ago

    I would prefer the nagant but either would do the trick in my opinion.

  • 4 years ago

    The nagant would be the better choice.

  • 4 years ago

    What are you planning to do? You asked about killing, and about protection. Those are two completely different topics.

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  • Bigham
    Lv 5
    4 years ago

    Technically a shotgun slug will have a little more power.

    But (assuming you use a proper expanding round in the Mosin, not just surplus FMJ stuff) the difference is not enough that I would make the decision based off of it alone. And since it's a slug (i.e. no spread) the "less aiming" argument that people tend to apply to shotguns doesn't apply here.

    So, the important difference in your choice should be your familiarity and proficiency with each weapon.

    Which have you found is more reliable? Which are you able to carry in a manner easily used quickly (bear encounters are often quite fast)? Which are you just plain more comfortable with?

    Those are the questions that should make the difference.

    TL;DR: both will work; use what you're best with; use expanding hunting ammo if using the Mosin.

  • Anonymous
    4 years ago

    Tim, please take your meds.

    Slugs are good.

  • 4 years ago

    Well this was why is said mosin nagant (because i knew the gun "nuts" here like you ;) (just joking) will know that the mosin fires the 7.62x54 fmj.

    (and thats definitely more than enough penetration power for any kind of bear ;)

    But as you said my question was not "how many bears in a row ;) can a mosin penetrate" it was what does more instant damage,

    and you convinced me for the slug,

    btw. thank you for your answers,

    was really appreciated

  • Tim
    Lv 7
    4 years ago

    My choice for bear protection is my .444 marlin lever action but if I had to pick between a 91/30(by the way 7.62 isn't the correct way to say it it's 7.62x54 if you just say 7.62 that means 30 cal you could mean .308,30-06,7.62x39 or many other rounds) and a 12/70 I'd pick the 12/70 with slugs it has more impact force and probably can be shot faster both can kill a bear tho

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