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Why Trinity believers keep quoting 1 Timothy 3:16 to try and say God is a mystery? You accept doctors who say they work in mysterious ways?

It's not hard to read. Why do Trinity believers keep quoting that scripture? It's saying without debate/conversation/controversy God is a mystery. That's all. It's not calling him a mystery and...well.....it's obvious. The word mystery is a transliterated word. Not a translation which shows the extra error in the Trinity belief system, anyway.

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  • Gloria
    Lv 7
    4 years ago

    A careful study of 1 Timothy 3:16 will reveal that scripture was not written by Paul, but was a later addition.

    And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preach(ed) unto the Gentiles, believe(d) on in the world, received up into glory.

    Why would Paul used the past tense PREACHED in his letter to Timothy while he was still preaching .

    And again how could Paul have said believed on in the world when the NT was not even put together as yet.

  • TeeM
    Lv 7
    4 years ago

    Sorry Annsan,

    the mystery in not who is God, but how to worship God. (godliness the greek word means piety)

    This mystery is solved by looking at 'Who?' In this verse Jesus is the one being spoken about and not God.

    We are to imitate Jesus in our worship.

    We are to obey Jesus in how to worship God.

    We are to accept God's appointed King, not to Jesus' own glory, but to the glory of the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ.

    Most trinitarians I've talked to try to use this verse to prove that Jesus is God, because God walked the earth, Because God died (which is impossible, since God is immortal)

    Most trinitarians are guilty of misapplying scripture when they use this verse.

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  • 4 years ago

    Trinity believers are confused. They claim God is "a unity of three [persons]," which is what the word "trinity" means. But, if God really were a trinity, then, 1 Tim. 3:16 in the KJB would mean that the Father, Son, and holy spirit were manifest in the flesh, not just Jesus. But, where in the Bible does it say that the Father, Son, and holy spirit were manifest in the flesh as the same "one God"? Answer: NOWHERE!! Instead, the Bible says: "God is a spirit." (John 4:24)

    So, the true mystery involves trinitarians who accept a teaching that neither Jesus nor the NT writers believed in.

  • 4 years ago

    That bit in the Bible says, "If I am delayed, you will know how people ought to conduct themselves in God's household, which is the Church of the living God, the pillar and foundation of the truth. Beyond all question, the mystery of godliness is great: God appeared in a body, was vindicated by the Spirit, was seen by angels, was preached among the nations, was believed on in the world, was taken up in glory."

    That's not saying God works in mysterious ways: it's saying that Christ appearing in a body is a great mystery. However, given that mystery about Christ appearing in a body (given that He was the Word of God before that), that certainly is an example of God working in a mysterious way. That is the reason Trinitarians quote 1 Timothy 3:16 in connection with God doing mysterious things. Whoever would have believed it?

    But I suspect that if you are reading from a different translation, you will totally misunderstand Trinitarians on this point. For example, the New World Translation works from a set of koine Greek manuscripts which has 'theos' [God] twice in verse 15. So does the King James Bible though it works from a different set of manuscripts. Well, so far, so much in agreement. Both translations agree that the subject of verse 15 is the household of God – the Church. It’s not the household of Jesus. It’s the household of God.

    The next verse then says "Who". The word 'theos' does not appear anywhere in verse 16, so who is this 'who'? This has to be the object of verse 15. This 'who' was made manifest in the flesh. Ah, so that has to be the Son of God, not the Father. But here's an alarming twist. The New World Translation removes the word 'who' and replaces it with 'he'. Why has the NWT decided to try to imply the 'who' of verse 15 is no longer being spoken of in verse 16? Could this be to try to get away from the one manifest in the flesh being God (which is what the Trinity teaches)?

    A second alarming twist - the NWT footnote of their Greek Interlinear on verse 16 tells us that two manuscripts they approve of state the "secret fear of Jehovah" in verse 16 (though they render it as the "secret of this godly devotion".) Given their passion for putting 'Jehovah' into the Greek scriptures, why did they refrain from such a golden opportunity? Why, because if they had identified Jehovah at that point, there would be no getting away from Jehovah having been made manifest in the flesh!

    Can of worms, really, but only if you are determined that your Bible will not say that Jesus is God. I wouldn't be so quick to point to 1 Timothy 3:16 to ridicule Trinitarians with, if I was you. Oh, and yes - many doctors work in ways mysterious to their patients, but that does not stop the patients totally trusting their doctor despite not understanding what he's doing.

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  • 4 years ago

    Why do Jehovah's Witnesses keep posting dumb bait questions?

  • Anonymous
    4 years ago

    Is this the best you can do, pumpkin?

  • Peter
    Lv 4
    4 years ago

    1st Timothy 16And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.

    No where in the above verse does it say God works in mysterious ways.

  • Misty
    Lv 7
    4 years ago

    I guess they do that to help you understand that we cannot know about God with our minds. That which exists in our finite world, in our limited minds, cannot contain who or what God is.

    The Trinity is something that has no natural or earthly example. There is nothing like it in our world. Many, therefore, reject it because they cannot grasp it.

  • Anonymous
    4 years ago

    Rant.

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