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Anonymous asked in TravelAfrica & Middle EastIsrael · 3 years ago

Why isn't there such thing as Arab jew?

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Yes there is thing such as Russian jews,polish jews even though their countries were the biggest antisemitic ever

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  • TNO
    Lv 7
    3 years ago
    Best Answer

    It's complicated.

    For starters, there are Jews of legitimate Arab backgrounds, though for the most part the term is NOT applied to those Jews who lived in Arab nations or come from communities that had. I know that sounds confusing, but the Jews managed to maintain a separate and independent identity while in those places. That doesn't mean they didn't integrate - Jews, when they lived in the Arab world in larger numbers, did make grand political, economic, and cultural contributions - but for thousands of years they maintained their community's nature from a time when Arabs weren't even in most of the places they resided. Throughout history, the Jews didn't see themselves as Arab, but rather as Libyan Jews, Iraqi Jews, Tunisian Jews, etc., relating themselves more to the land or nation they were in yet always kept up that Jewish uniqueness compared to other nationals. The term just really didn't exist, at least not until quite recently as far as history is concerned. Considering how long Jewish history in this area is, "recent" means a hundred years when pitted against thousands.

    Jew, for most Arab lands, really stood out like the Copts do now. No one calls the Copts Arabs, not really, despite the fact that they live in Egypt. The same goes for the Berber, the Kurds.....honestly, the Middle East is a lot more diverse than a lot of people realize and the Jews are part of that diversity. They're not part of the ethnic groups highlighted as Arab, so that's why the term is inappropriate on an ethnic scale.

    Arab doesn't always mean ethnic, though, and sometimes has more cultural and linguistic definitions. However, these too aren't the most appropriate to describe Jews anymore. The first thing to note is that very few Jews live in Arabic-speaking nations anymore, and that those who descend from communities that did generally do not pick up the language, at least not to a fluent level. Arabic in the Libyan Jewish community, for instance, is pretty much dead. If "Arab" is to mean "someone who speaks the Arabic language as their native tongue" or "someone who uses it as their common language", then you have a dying population for the first and a severely shrunken population for the second. As for culture, most Jews who left the Arab world didn't bring much of specifically Arab things with them. And that which was brought were things that just become more cemented in their own Jewish culture anyway, so they weren't even seen as Arab. With so many of these quantifiers gone, can they really be Arab in this way?

    Now, Arab Jew has an interesting history popping up in popularity only in the early part of the last century. A lot of Jews, whose communities have never before used it, began to call themselves that at this time. Not because they felt Arab per say, but because nationalism in many nations began popping up, wanting to kick out European influence or rulers. The "we're Arab and they're European" rhetoric was a way this manifested, and the Jews noted that such excluded them. It didn't help that many Jews did adopt more European ways of doing things too, along with their native culture, and cooperated with many Europeans. Of course, some Jews did feel like they were a part of the Arab culture as well, but it's rather clear that the feeling wasn't too terribly common nor did the Arabs of the time think the same either. There is a reason so many Jews were kicked out or forced to flee the Arab world, with the names thrown out them clearly indicating a sense of otherness.

    Honestly, with ~99% of Jewry in the Arab world leaving the Arab world, one can say that there is no such thing as an Arab Jew because there are no more Jews in the Arab world. Granted, there are some, but it's dwindled dramatically. Only Tunisia and Morocco have sustainable populations that will see the next generation, but more like Egypt are made up completely of elderly women who will go the way of Libya's, which is at a not-rounded-down 0%.

    Lastly, I'll just point it out: The Jewish organization for "Arab Jews" is JIMENA, or Jews indigenous to the Middle East and North Africa. Its a long name....that doesn't have Arab in it, and they don't really use the term "Arab Jew". At least, not in the documentation that I've seen from them, which is quite a lot.

  • 3 years ago

    Because for Jews from Arab countries to be called Arab Jew is most offensive things you can do.

  • Kevin7
    Lv 7
    3 years ago

    Yes there are many Arab and Berber Jews.Most Arab and Berber Jews now live in Israel.After the rebirth of Israel in 1948,more than 1 million Jews were deported by force from Arab and Muslim lands.Many Arab and Berber Jews also live in France

    • TNO
      Lv 7
      3 years agoReport

      Just to confirm, you aren't using "Arab Jew" as a blanket term for Mizrahi Jews, are you? That's frowned upon and considered insulting by most of their communities, not to mention a bit inaccurate to begin with given the nature of their communities in these nations.

  • Anonymous
    3 years ago

    When the Ottoman Empire fell apart and the League of Nations established the countries of the Middle East, the vast majority of Arab countries immediately exiled their Jewish populations -- and the vast majority of these Jews went to the part of the Middle East that was expressly allotted to the Jews -- "Jewish Palestine" (later renamed "Israel").

    There were approximately 200,000 more Jews exiled from Arab countries than there were Arabs who left Israel.

    Jews from Arab countries don't call themselves "Jewish Arabs" or "Arab Jews" because they were always kept as a separate group and generally second-class citizens.

    Pretty similar system as the Ghettos of Europe.

    Really -- the same reason that there are in fact no Russian Jews or Polish Jews -- they were always held separate and were not allowed citizenship in those countries until the communists came to power.

    • Lv 5
      3 years agoReport

      I do not make a single care for their opinion and I only care for scholar opinion whom themselves are much civilized than the average man

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  • saggi
    Lv 7
    3 years ago

    There are, but they're called Mizrahim

  • Anonymous
    3 years ago

    There are. Being Arabic is an ethnicity. There are many Arabs who are not Muslim, many, many Muslims who are not Arabic.

  • Flower
    Lv 7
    3 years ago

    There are Jewish Arabs in most Middle East countries, just not in Israel.

    • trancinguy
      Lv 6
      3 years agoReport

      Operation Magic Carpet and the missing Yemenite Jews beg to differ.

  • 3 years ago

    There is but he is very Confused.

    Source(s): Shalom Arkbar
  • Anonymous
    3 years ago

    there are

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