Anonymous asked in News & EventsCurrent Events · 6 years ago

Why do many Pro Zionist people ignore/deny the USS Liberty, Lavon Affair, Sampson Option, Dancing Israelis, AIPAC/ADL spying?

Fair question. A lot of them either ignore it, don't know about it, or deny it. Besides, a lot of Jews who are loyal to America might be in agreement with this question.

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  • Anonymous
    6 years ago
    Favorite Answer

    Maybe too blinkered, too indoctrinated, too much "chosen people" syndrome to always make excuses for own behavior.

    Plus they can probably justify, whatever they do, in terms, they can live with.

    Plus the friends of Israel, or the lobby help to sweeten the candidates outside Israel.

    The more one learns about "fragile" Israel, the more of a disappointment it reveals itself to be!

    Because obviously they think heaven on earth awaits them! Nevermind what happens to other people who are innocent! And this from people who never stop reminding the world, how, oh how, they suffered.

    Disgraceful how the mainstream media ecpects ALL to keep it afloat.

    Propaganda mainstream media keeps its gob zipped! Money buys power! Power buys SILENCE!!!!

    Follow the money! Who benefits?

    In many cases the people who stand for elections have DUAL CUTIZENSHIP! Which countries interests do they put FIRST?

    "Earlier this year, I acquired a copy of the audiotape of the attack as it had unfolded, the real time conversations between Isreali Air Force pilots and their controllers back at base. It had never been broadcast before.

    In Texas we interviewed Bobby Ray Inman, an intelligence officer with a glittering track record at the CIA, Naval Intelligence and as a former director of the NSA. My contacts in the UK intelligence world had always told me "he is one of the good guys" and I quickly discovered why. He was frank and clear. The top Israeli commanders, he explained, had known exactly what they were doing when they attacked the Liberty and when it came to holding them to account, the US government rolled over for them."

    Never heard of Lavorn affair till you mentioned it. "CHAPTER 7 The Lavon Affair: Terrorism to Coerce the West

    ONE: Start immediate action to prevent or postpone Anglo-Egyptian Agreement. Objectives are: one, cultural and information centers; two, economic institutions; three, cars of British representatives and other Britons; four, whichever target whose sabotage could bring about a worsening of diplomatic relations. TWO. Inform us on possibilities of action in Canal Zone. THREE. Listen to us every day at 7 o'clock on wavelength G.

    This coded cable was sent to the Israeli spy ring which had been planted in Egypt many months before it was activated in July 1954. The ring originally was to serve as a fifth column during the next war. The cable was preceded by oral instructions given by Colonel Benjamin Givii, head of Israel's military intelligence, to an officer headed for Cairo to join the ring. These instructions were:...."

    Curious, why "ally(???)" Spies? "Israel Flagged as Top Spy Threat to U.S. in New Snowden/NSA Document.

    August 06, 2014 "Israel was singled out in 2007 as a top espionage threat against the U.S. government, including its intelligence services, in a newly published National Security Agency (NSA) document obtained by fugitive leaker Edward Snowden, according to a news report Monday.

    The document also identified Israel, along with North Korea, Cuba and India, as a “leading threat” to the infrastructure of U.S. financial and banking institutions.

    The threats were listed in the NSA’s 2007 Strategic Mission List, according to the document obtained by journalist/activist Glenn Greenwald, a founding editor of The Intercept, an online magazine that has a close relationship with Snowden, a former NSA and CIA contractor who fled the U.S. with thousands of top-secret documents last year." "Netanyahu Said To Have Offered Lewinsky Tapes For Pollard

    New critical book on the Clinton family claims that Israel tapped White House phones, blackmailed president with recordings of intern." "Why is it important for citizens to know if their representatives in Congress are dual citizens? Because both real and apparent conflicts of interest erode the public trust. If there are dual citizens in Congress or in top levels of the Executive Branch, citizens may reasonably demand that all foreign citizenship be renounced as a condition of high political office.

    At the level of individual members, transparency is essential. For example, a constituent should know whether or not another state loyalty is involved when his or her representative speaks out on a major issue, such as on military assistance to Israel or recognition of Palestine as a state. Only if we know who are the dual citizens in Congress and what are their second countries, can we intelligently assess the credibility of their policy statements and actions."

    5 dancing israelis-- never heard of it till now from you.

    "Cop Who Arested The Five Dancing Israeli’s On 9/11 Speaks Out"

    Another first. "In 1993, the District of Attorney of San Francisco released 700 pages of documents implicating the Anti-Defamation League, an organization that claims to be a defender of civil rights, in a vast spying operation directed against American citizens who were opposed to Israel’s policies in the Occupied West Bank and Gaza and to the apartheid policies of the government of South Africa and passing on information to both governments.

    Under great political pressure, Smith later dropped the charges."

    AIPAC er which one? Numerous scandals.

    Source(s): Charming! Eradicating the world!
  • ?
    Lv 7
    6 years ago

    The USS Liberty was found by the US and Israel to be an accident. Israel regretted making it, and paid reparations for it. The thing is that anti-Israel persons seem to really beat it out to demonizing proportions. It goes beyond a belief that the Israelis intended to bomb it and should be punished for it, but an intention to make the Israelis seem awful and to ignore common Israeli attitudes and beliefs. Modern Israelis certainly condemn the idea of bombing a US boat without good intention, but people who tend to bring it up tend to make all Israelis out as murderers.

    The Lavon affair did happen, which is terrible, and they paid the price. Actually, one thing often ignored is the context in which they did it. While not praising or saying that the Israelis should've done it (which I don't think they should've), do realize that the Israelis did it to make sure they wouldn't have to deal with a very unchecked and violent Egypt which WAS a reality. Look at the backdrop of what the Egyptian Jewish community was going through and what the rhetoric of the Egyptian nation was during this time. It's not pretty, and given the violent speech directed at Israel as well as the persecution of Jews at home (which actually predates Israel), they did see understandably the worst. Keep in mind that in 1948, the Egyptians tried to WIPE OUT the new nation and one thing people don't realize is that most of the Jews caught in the middle probably wouldn't have made it out, at least not well.

    The Sampson Option probably doesn't exist. Or, at the very least, the version of it that has nuclear missiles pointed at European capitals is bs. Keep in mind that their enemies are rather close so it's a LAST RESORT if real. So, the scary thing of the scenario isn't that Israel could potentially bomb the s#%^ out of their neighbors, it's what the hell would force them into that position. If you have no future otherwise, then they'd consider things like the supposed Sampson Option.

    Those Israelis detained on 9/11 were never linked to the event, and the idea that they're somehow part of it has been proven to be rather false. At best, given that Israel was in the 2nd Intifada and no one seemed to get what Israelis themselves were going through, they thought that this might shed some light on their situation. Most Israelis were shocked and sad to hear of the attack, so I'd pay more attention to MILLIONS than to five. Or, don't ignore which group had more dancers, if you look at some Palestinian reactions.

    AIPAC and ADL aren't spy organizations; however, it is worth noting that pretty much all nations....including Israel, most likely, spy on the US. There are more spies per square inch in Washington DC than anywhere else in the world...something that the Spy Museum of Washington DC does admit readily. This includes everyone we consider "friendly". The thing is, Israel needs a strong US so they'd only be in it for intel reasons, if at all. Sabotage or anything negative would be something they can't afford, not with the USA being their staunchest supporter. I wouldn't fear Israeli spying that much, but what some other nations are most certainly doing in this field instead.

    Source(s): Extremely Loyal US Citizen
  • 6 years ago

    To TNO: People like Dean Rusk, Richard Helms, Bobby Jo Inman, Thomas Moorer, Rufus Taylor, etc, etc, etc all are in absolute and explicit agreement, and are without question officially on the record, as saying that the attack on the Liberty was deliberate and that the Israeli s who attacked the Liberty did so knowing it was a vessel of the US Navy. So we are talking about the Secretary of State, Director of the CIA, Director of the NSA and the Chief of US Naval Operations and eventual Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. My question to you is simply this, and I would very much appreciate a direct answer: Do you acknowledge that this group of people who I have mentioned here all agree without equivocation that the attack was deliberate and the Israeli s who attacked the Liberty knew it was a US Naval Vessel? Do you acknowledge that this is the case? Thank You.

  • 6 years ago

    dear Abdul,

    It you who ignores the historic facts.

    I will refer this time to the relatively recent event, which shows who is the spy: AIPAC or you.

    The Dancing Israelis...

    On 9-11 I would arrest 5 Israelis myself, because...they looked like...ARABS

    And if you want to see people dancing on 9-11 watch the reference...

    60% of Israelis are from Arab countries, but you always lie all Israelis are converts from Europe without any connection to the ME.

    As usual, today's Arab lie contradicts yesterday's Arab lie.

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  • Kini
    Lv 7
    6 years ago

    Dancing Israelis? Do you mean the Hassidic rabbis who raise money and go on TV to perform ?

  • Anonymous
    6 years ago

    Americans support Israel because they expect Israel to build a temple with animal sacrifices. When the Anti-Christ defiles that temple, Jesus will return and the real Christians will rule everyone else with a rod of Iron.

    Source(s): Hal Lindsey, _The Late Great Planet Earth_; Paul Boyer, _When Time Shall Be No More_
  • Anonymous
    6 years ago

    Balance of interests.

  • 6 years ago

    They aren't, conservatives are.

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