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Anonymous asked in Politics & GovernmentPolitics · 6 years ago

Is it in the best interest of the US to see a divided Iraq - the Kurds are announcing their ambitions for independence?

President Barzani of the Kurdish Regional Govenrment announced that he was going to initiate a referendum for independence. This comes just after the Kurds seized Kirkuk, an oil rich field. The Kurds do not want a war with Baghdad, though they need a revenue stream. In order to manage the country, they need $1 billion per month. They've already begun the process of exporting their oil to Turkey through pipeline projects.

Kurdish officials are telling the US that the idea of a united Iraq is not realistic. They want their own country and become financially independent from Iraq. They have not commited their pesh merga troops to help al Maliki fight off ISIS in Mosul and other towns and villages.

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  • 6 years ago
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    The Kurds have always wanted independence. The problem with Kurdish independence is that Kurdistan spans parts of Iraq, Turkey and Iran. The Kurds will want all of it, while Turkey and Iran will fight to keep their own territory. The Turks are already in a de facto war with their own Kurds.

    The problem with a Shia-dominated "state" in Eastern Iraq is that it will be a puppet of Iran, which wants us dead. An ISIS state in Western Iraq and Eastern Syria also will want us dead. Anyone who thinks that these problems will remain restricted to the Middle East needs to do more reading.

    Erich, I hardly know where to start. I hope the Kurds don't hire you as a mercenary. With your muddled thinking you're not going to do them much good. They might give you a big fat fee to stay away.

    Kurds refused to become Arabs for the same reason grasshoppers refused to become ants, despite the many advantages.

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    - The uprising in Syria was joined by al Qaeda offshoots, it developed into ISIS, which we have today trying to tear apart Iraq.

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  • Kini
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    6 years ago

    Since the US controls the country it is not in its interest to see Kurds have independence even if it is pro-american. Then Iraq will lose control of all that oil, thats the problem. And Turkey does not want Kurdistan independence as they consider many of them terrorists. During the 13 year bombing campaign against Saddam under Clinton, Kurds were left alone in a no fly zone, so they are friendly to U.S. and have a good economy.

  • Anonymous
    6 years ago

    I don't give a flying rotten fig about the so-called best interests of the US in the Middle East.

    There are two things that determine US foreign policy in the Mideast: Oil and AIPAC.

    With the demise of Bushian conservatism, the evangelicals can yell all they want, but they no longer exert influence on policy circles.

    America's inane refusal to vigorously cultivate domestic alternative energy sources and subsidize them federally, has kept the US tied to the Mideast, where it logically doesn't belong.

    The US has appointed itself guardian of Israel, mostly because of guilt over inaction before and during WWII to spare Jews from the genocide. At this point, the State of Israel is doing to the Palestinians much of what Germany did to the Jews.

    It's time for the US to leave for the foreseeable future. Trade evenhandedly with all parties and stay out of politics, or else just stay out.

    If the Kurds want independence, fine. Let them fight for it and I will give them moral support. If they want to hire me as a mercenary, maybe I will go, but I need a big fat fee.

    The Kurds were supposed to have an independent state a long time ago, but geopolitical considerations of the Western powers dismissed it in the end. Turkey, Iran and the Arab states don't want the Kurds to have independence, because of the large Kurdish areas in Iran, Turkey, and Syria, besides Iraq, and among the Arabs, there is a longstanding dislike of the Kurds because the Kurds refused to "become Arabs."

  • 6 years ago

    No America needs a unified Iraq with a pro western government, not q divided Iraq in the hands of fundamentalists. It needs the world's 3rd largest oil producer (the crucial fact) on ITS' terms.

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  • like i said earlier today to in the military section.

    independent kurdish state has no support, as that would destabilise wider region, Iran and more importantly Turkey. destabilising Turkey as an independent country would / could trigger NATO article 5 response.

    in net effect, it would mean NATO aircraft bombing the living heck out of the kurdish people's oil field liberation army before they could crank up their magic carpets.

    allow me to provide comparison. remember UCK? that 'was a bunch of allahuakbar looters that set one balkan province alight. they were fortunate to start their violent takeove before the 9/11 so it ended up in a steel rain upon Belgrade coming from f-117 and others.

    now, Kurds long had similar terrorist organisation, PPK. recognised terrorist organisation, blowing places up across Turkey. Where UCK once was, today you can see a mafia quazistate ran by a recognised war criminal engaged in human organs trade (aka, Kosovo). what do you expect to arise from Kurdistan?

  • 6 years ago

    Personally, I would have liked to see the Kurds given their own independent state in the beginning.

    However, Turkey is an ally of ours, and I'm sure they objected to such an idea.

    There are a lot of Kurds in Turkey.

  • 6 years ago

    it would be in the best in interest of Iraq not to let their internal madness spill out into the rest of the world. Then the US and the West at large would have no interest in what goes on inside Iraq

  • Anonymous
    6 years ago

    as a kurd ... is support what president barzani said about separation

    iraqi arabs are killing each other(shiite & sunnies)

    the only part of iraq which remains safe & powerful is kurdistan

    if america doesn't help in iraq

    so their administration shall keep their mouth shut & don't stick their heads in our business with maliki & his funny army

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  • Anonymous
    6 years ago

    Just like Little Miss Muffet, the Kurds are in the way

  • 6 years ago

    We are masters at creating division and strife.

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