Why do liberal Democrats insist that Republicans don't have an alternative to Obamacare when?
There are many Republican alternatives to it?
Here's just a few:
Representative Steve Scalise of La. has an alternative called the American Health Care Reform Act, which is less than 200 pages long (compared to the 2700 page Obamacare bill) and over a 100 members of Congress have co-sponsored it. Here, educate yourself if you dare:
*Ten Steps to Transform Health Care in America Act (S. 1783) introduced by Senator Mike Enzi (R-WY) July 12, 2007.
*Every American Insured Health Act introduced by Senators Richard Burr (R-NC) and Bob Corker (R-TN) with co-sponsors Tom Coburn (R-OK), Mel Martinez (formerly R-FL) and Elizabeth Dole (formerly R-NC) on July 26, 2007.
*Senators Bob Bennett (R-UT) and Ron Wyden (D-OR) introduced the Healthy Americans Act on January 18, 2007 and re-introduced the same bill on February 5, 2009.
*Patients’ Choice Act of 2009 introduced by Senators Tom Coburn (R-OK) and Richard Burr (R-NC) and Rep. Paul Ryan (R-WI) and Devin Nunes (R-CA) on May 20, 2009.
H.R. 2300, Empowering Patients First Act introduced July 30, 2009 by Rep. Tom Price (R-GA).
conservative market-oriented health policy scholars have developed a rich menu of potential replacement plans for Obamacare…”
*Individual Pay or Play proposed in 2005 by John Goodman; this is a minimalist version of a broader reform envisaged by Goodman built on converting the tax exclusion into universal tax credits.
*Health Status Insurance originally proposed by John Cochrane in 1995.
Universal Health Savings Accounts proposed by John Goodman and Peter Ferrara in 2012. This combines fixed tax credits with individual pay or play and health status insurance concepts along with Roth-style Health Savings Accounts.
*Fixed tax credits. A variety of proposals have centered on using fix tax credits to replace the current inefficient and unfair tax exclusion for employer-provided health benefits. Two good explanations of how that would work are here:
James C. Capretta and Robert E. Moffit, “How to Replace Obamacare,” National Affairs, no. 11 (Spring 2012).
*Constructing an Alternative to Obamacare: Key Details for a Practical Replacement Program. American Enterprise Institute, December 2012.
*Income-Related Tax Credits proposed by Mark Pauly and John Hoff in Responsible Tax Credits (2002) and endorsed by the American Medical Association.
*More recently, 8 scholars from Harvard, University of Chicago, and USC–Jay Bhattacharya, Amitabh Chandra, Michael Chernew, Dana Goldman, Anupam Jena, Darius Lakdawalla,Anup Malani and Tomas Philipson—released Best of Both Worlds: Uniting Universal Coverage and Personal Choice in Health Care (2013) which also is built around a model of individual health insurance subsidized with income-related tax credits.
*Flexible Benefits Tax Credit For Health Insurance by Lynn Etheredge in 2001.
Near-Universal Health Insurance Exchanges proposed in 2001 by Sara Singer, Alan Garber and Alain Enthoven (covers only non-elderly).
*Universal Health Insurance Exchanges proposed in 2013 by former CBO director Douglas Holtz-Eakin and Avik Roy (covers Medicare and Medicaid in addition to privately insured).
- ?Lv 46 years agoFavorite Answer
Funny Keith, how Libs just spout off lies after lies. I have actually posted some of these before as answers to questions, only to get it deleted by the Yahoo board. Why is that?
- John SLv 76 years ago
The goal of the Affordable Care Act is to make medical insurance available to a large number of people. (Liberals wanted a single payer system to make healthcare available to everybody, but the choice was made to instead enact the insurance-based program favored by the Heritage Foundation and the GOP.)
You do NOT make medical insurance available to more people by:
1) repealing the affordable care act
2) selling insurance across state lines (which only rewards companies which sell inferior products)
3) restricting non-economic damages in civil suits (which has been a monumental failure in California and other states)
4) Making health care costs deductible (they already are above a certain amount--and this has no effect upon those who do not itemize deductions)
5) Expanding health care spending accounts, which are valuable only to those who have the money to put into such an account, and which in NO WAY substitutes for insurance
6) Expanding high risk pools, which cannot work unless the state guarantees insurance for everybody which, without the mandate included in the ACA, is financially impossible.
7) Eliminating insurance coverage for abortions.
So--absolutely NOTHING in this proposal does, or is even intended to, advance the goals of the Affordable Care Act. That is why we say that the GOP has no alternative to the ACA--THERE IS NO ALTERNATIVE other than the status quo!
- ArnieLv 76 years ago
"The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so." Ronald Reagan
The Liberal ideology is a theory which holds forth beliefs that have no basis in reality.
They are Advocates of a policy that empowers a strong government to enslave its people with a high tax burden incident to the support of extravagant and unnecessary social programs destructive to both the work ethic among the lower class, and the incentive to innovate and succeed among the working class.
The problems we face today are because the people who work for a living are outnumbered by those who vote for a living.
A democracy will continue to exist up until
the time that voters discover that they can vote themselves generous
gifts from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority
always votes for the candidates who promise the most benefits from
the public treasury, with the result that every democracy will finally
collapse over loose fiscal policy
A broken government can't be fixed by the same government that broke it.
- mommanukeLv 76 years ago
Because the majority of them assume that someone can afford health care to begin with. Let's talk about how much a family can save for health care costs when they don't have enough to support their families, which more and more people every year do. Or the farce of "tort reform", which passed in Texas more than 5 years ago and hasn't lowered the cost of health care one single cent here. Or the idiocy of "selling insurance across state lines". That ignores the reason why insurance companies DON'T sell in certain states - namely minimum coverage requirements they don't want to meet. Does it make it cheaper if you buy a policy that won't cover half the stuff it's required to in your state? Heck, yeah. Now, let's talk about medical bankruptcies and how 75% of those filing them already had insurance!
The problem is that as long as health care is allowed to be a for profit system, it is always going to deny care to those who can't afford it. Some of us think that's unacceptable.
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- Marina 1Lv 66 years ago
The Republican proposals didn't offer insurance coverage to everyone. They did not address preexisting conditions and eliminated certain coverage. It was just a makeover with few changes and not a real overhaul. than what existing health insurance company's were already offering. Incidentally, the PPACA (which is about 1000 pages less than your figures) included much Republican input, so they cannot say they had no say on the bill. They just wanted to water it down more and procrastinate until it was completely off the table. We must not exclude Bill Clinton who twenty years ago proposed his own health care plan that Republican viciously fought against. Seriously, most Republican leaders wanted health insurance to remain just as unregulated the way it was with few changes to make a difference.
- justaLv 76 years ago
Bush era plans didn't work, and they were enacted, but so complicated and ultimately useless that they had no impact. When you have a thirty thousand dollar bill a five thousand dollar health savings account is a joke.
- Beverly SLv 76 years ago
Liberals only get the news from the Main Stream Media (which are in Obama's pocket). Their news sources don't report anything the administration doesn't want known.
- JohnLv 76 years ago
Hilarious how most gop members stumble when asked that.