2 month old vaccines?

Im totally freaking out, i read on baby center that at 2 months they are recommended to get hepatitis B; polio; DTaP (diphtheria, tetanus, and pertussis); Hib, to protect against meningitis; pneumococcal, to protect against severe bacterial infections, ear infections, and meningitis; and rotavirus (given by mouth), to guard against a common cause of severe diarrhea. What should I do that seems like a lot of shots at first, what are possible side effects, is she likely to even contract any of these, which ones are more important? I was thinking about just her getting pneumococcal dtap and rotavirus??? what should i do i hate this ):::

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  • 7 years ago
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    The logical thing would be to listen to the the current medical advise, which is to follow the childhood immunization schedule.

    The too many too soon or at once argument has been thoroughly debunked.

    Edit: You've received some misleading advise from Lisa. It must be remembered that this user has no medical or scientific training. Lisa talks about these diseases being rare, but neglects to mention that these diseases are rare BECAUSE of vaccines. If we stop vaccinating we will see a return of these diseases.

    There was a resurgence of Diphtheria in parts of the former Soviet Union because of a breakdown in the vaccination program. It led to 52,000 cases and 1,700 deaths.

    Polio could be reintroduced through travel, that's why we keep vaccinating. Lisa is misleading you about the Pertussis vaccine. The problem isn't that it does not work, the problem is waning immunity. Basically boosters are needed.

    Rotavirus can cause serious complications in the very young as a result of dehydration. Apparently Lisa thinks it's OK to wind up in hospital on IV fluids.

    Lisa tries to fear-monger about pig viruses, PCV1 and PCV2, but forgets to tell you that it cannot infect humans and there was never any active virus in the vaccine.

    Hib causes meningitis and pneumonia. It's responsible for 386,000 deaths worldwide every year. It's not trivial.

    Lisa's asthma claim is based on a study that did not establish causation. She has also misread the study about paracetamol. The problem is giving it to prevent a fever. There is no problem with giving it to treat a developed fever that is causing distress.

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    Edit: Polidori says, " Nothing she says can be believed": I am not asking you to believe. Everything I say is easily verifiable, and supported by empirical evidence. The only people who complain about me being on Y!A are the science denialists because they don't like being challenged; facts have a way of making these people looks like fools.

    Additionally Supporting vaccines is not the same as supporting drug companies.

    1. Where is Polidori's evidence that " there ARE problems with multiple vaccinations." ?

    He says, "Many pediatricians "go slow" w/ vaccines" but this isn't based on the current medical evidence and advise. *In general*, there are no merits to "spacing out" vaccination, this simply delays protection.

    http://www.aap.org/en-us/advocacy-and-policy/Docum...

    And once again, rather than refute the information provided in my original link he keeps railing on the usual erroneous ad hominem things about Paul Offit and the source. All the information provided on that site is supported by the scientific evidence and is fully referenced. Polidori presents no evidence to refute this.

    "Why doesn't Rhia use an NIH Pubmed peer-reviewed study?"

    Because like you, most people people lack the required training to read such papers and end up misinterpreting it. So I provided something a little easier to read. Here, have some papers:

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16567978

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12922095

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12516995

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20732948

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16567981

    Etc.

    See more in source.

    2.Polidori doesn't seem understand the difference between a virus and DNA fragments. PCV1 nor PCV2 are known to cause illness in humans: http://www.fda.gov/biologicsbloodvaccines/vaccines...

    Polidori's link to Pubmed 21742 is refers to hepatocellular carcinoma cells.

    Polidori's quote mines from his Pubmed 15099209 link, which actually supports what I have said! He misses out this important part of course: "Although PCV gene expression and replication took place in human cells, the infection is non-productive"

    3. The Diphtheria resurgence in parts of the former Soviet Union was due to the breakdown in the vaccination programme: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7489783?dopt=Ab... The resurgence started in 1991 and, in 1995, there were around 52,000 cases and 1,700 deaths

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7489783?dopt=Ab...

    http://jid.oxfordjournals.org/content/181/Suppleme...

    See more in source.

    4: Hib is rare becuase of vaccines. In 2008, 3 unimmunized children in Minnesota developed invasive disease do to Hib. One died. See link (4) in source.

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  • 7 years ago

    I promise you it really is not that bad. Ask the pediatrician the correct dose of tylenol for her (it goes by weight) and give her a dose maybe 30 minutes before the shots. This helps prevent the mild fever and discomfort the shots often cause. You really don't even have to use the full dose since it's preventative. It does seem like a lot, but in the US it's actually just 2 shots and an oral vaccine. (Unless you did not get her the hep b vax yet. My son had his in the hospital when he was born) It isn't exactly fun for them, but really just amounts to being uncomfortable, not traumatized. My baby was a little sleepy and not feeling awesome for about a day and a half but that was it. We used a little tylenol and he never even got a fever. I don't know statistics for how common these diseases are without vaccines, but I do know you don't want your child catching them.

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  • 7 years ago

    Both my children got these shots and if I remember correctly it there were two shots and a pink liquid they mad them drink. The only side-effect is it made them sleepy, it could even get them and elevated temperature, but if you're concerned about anything always call your Pedi, that's what you pay them for.

    And yes your baby will cry when getting these shots, mine were fine with the first pop because they didn't expect it. The second one is when they tuned up but again they were and still are just fine. I have a 2yr old and 10 month old.

    Source(s): I have a 2yr old and 10 month old.
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  • 7 years ago

    I wholeheartedly agree w/ Lisa's answer. Please follow her advice

    Most doctors & medical staff are competent & caring. As "mom" you still have to be vigilant & proactive. Read the vaccine package inserts warnings, contraindications, precautions & adverse events. You sign paperwork saying you read/understand them, so you might as well take a look

    While reading the inserts, take relevant notes & write down questions for your visit. Keep in mind your child's & other family members' health histories (especially immune problems), medications, prolonged reaction to any med or vaccine or if she has had illnesses w/ fever or viral illness within the last 30 days. If a recent illness is listed as a reason not to vaccinate (contraindication), you need to let the staff AND pediatrician know. A healthy child has nothing to fear from most vaccinations. As a parent knowing the signs & symptoms to exclude some vaccines will give you peace of mind

    Please read the entire package insert, as drug companies sometimes misplace some warnings/precautions/contraindications

    Please make sure the following are the vaccines your doctor is going to use. I'm happy to offer more help, just ask. Here are the package inserts -

    Rotateq - http://www.merck.com/product/usa/pi_circulars/r/ro...

    Prevnar - http://labeling.pfizer.com/showlabeling.aspx?id=13...

    DTaP - Infanrix - http://us.gsk.com/products/assets/us_infanrix.pdf

    Hepatitus B - http://www.merck.com/product/usa/pi_circulars/r/re...

    Hib - http://www.merck.com/product/usa/pi_circulars/p/pe...

    From what I know of Rotateq, Hib & whooping cough (pertussis) vaccines I would never vaccinate my child or recommend them for anyone else

    In the interest of truth, safety & proper medical care I have to address the misinformation from "rhianna does medicine". She spends a lot of time on the internet blindly supporting the drug industry. Nothing she says can be believed, you have to double check. Many have complained about her, but Yahoo Answers allows her to remain active

    Most of rhia's "answer" is an attack on Lisa, Lisa's answer or an attack on your ideas. All violations of Community Guidelines

    1. She said your idea of getting only some of the vaccines as a way to protect your daughter is "thoroughly debunked". Once you read the package inserts you will see there ARE problems with multiple vaccinations. Many pediatricians "go slow" w/ vaccines, as a professional decision & certain health problems can make spacing vaccines mandatory

    The College of Physicians in Philadelphia runs the History of Vaccines website Rhia linked to proving her "thorughly debunked" statement. The College of Physicians is not a research group & is run by a psychiatrist (Wohlreich) who defends vaccines referring to people like Paul Offit (who is making millions from Rotateq) & Seth Mnookin (former sports writer turned medical blogger). CP is not objective or authoritative. Why doesn't Rhia use an NIH Pubmed peer-reviewed study?

    2. PCV1 & 2 are pig viruses contaminating rotateq vaccine. Rhia says they "cannot infect humans & there was never any active virus in the vaccine", both statements are false. As a self-alleged nurse, Rhia should be able to report medical knowledge accurately, especially when studies are available

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21742002 - This study admits PCV1 is present in Rotavirus vaccines & can actively infect human cells

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15099209 - We have known before 2004 that PCV2 actively infects human cells causing noticeable changes

    Why doesn't "nurse/doctor" Rhia know this?

    3. Rhia lists a Pubmed study claiming diphtheria in eastern europe caused "52.000 cases and 1,700 deaths". Actually, that quote is from a Hepatitis E study http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21320558. Rhia's mis-quote can be found on drug industry shill websites & w/o citation in a book by Jeremy Hawker (who also uncritically & blindly defends vaccinations)

    4. Rhia says "Lisa talks about these diseases being rare". She didn't. Lisa said "Hib is not common. Other bacteria, for which there are no vaccines, have seemed to take its place"

    Lisa indirectly gives vaccines credit for reducing Hib, but observes Hib vaccine is useless if other pathogens cause the same infection. Rhia deliberately miquotes Lisa, pretending to make a point, defending vaccinations w/ lies

    5. Rhia claims Lisa misled you & has no scientific/medical training. Clearly Rhia is doing the misleading. In spite of her self-alleged nursing skills she is lying or been duped

    If she is a nurse her health-related posts are medical advice. Most Nursing Codes forbid the lies and/or ignorance Rhia posted/showed here or in any social media

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  • justme
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    7 years ago

    where i live the shots are combined so that its actually just 2 shots and the orl dose, doc should tell you bout side effects, most common is pain aybe swelling at shot site, fussiness sleepiness or fever, aybe some diarrhea or vomiting from the rotovirus vaccine, my son was usually a little sleepy and fussy but that was it

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  • Lisa
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    7 years ago

    A good general rule of mothering is to not do anything to your baby that freaks you out, unless there is some sort of emergency. Vaccines are never emergency medicine.

    Go to the library and get some books, or buy them at a bookstore or Amazon. Take your time. My advice is to not give ANY vaccine until you are fully informed about the disease it's for, the chances of your child getting the disease without the vaccine, the chances of your child getting the disease with the vaccine, what would happen if your child did get the disease, how the disease is properly treated, the common side effects of the vaccine, and the more rare side effects of the vaccine.

    Your research should include thoroughly reading the package inserts for each vaccine. Here they are.

    http://www.fda.gov/BiologicsBloodVaccines/Vaccines...

    The CDC's Pink Book has information on the diseases.

    http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/pubs/pinkbook/index.ht...

    For each disease, under the heading "Secular Trends," you will see how common or rare each disease is. For example, you will probably be relieved to learn that in the U.S., there hasn't been a single case of wild polio (not caused by the vaccine) since 1979. And since 1999/2000, when they stopped using the live virus polio vaccine, there have been zero cases of polio in the U.S. from any cause. You may also be relieved to learn that there are only about 30 cases of tetanus in the U.S. per year, mostly in people over 40 and heroin users. In addition, there is between zero and 1 case of diphtheria per year in the U.S.

    It probably won't say it in the Pink Book, but it's been all over the news that the pertussis vaccine doesn't seem to work well anymore. Pertussis is common these days, even though there are currently record high vaccination rates for pertussis. It definitely won't say it in the Pink Book, but sodium ascorbate, a type of vitamin C, is a very effective treatment for pertussis. Most non-vaccinating families know about it. It worked extremely well when my child and and I had pertussis.

    Hepatitis B is a sexually transmitted disease. They vaccinate babies because it's difficult to get prostitutes to come in to health clinics and get all 3 vaccines. The problem is, the vaccine doesn't necessarily last until adulthood. The only reason a baby in the U.S. should get the hepatitis B vaccine is if it is born to a mother who has hepatitis B. You would have been told if you had it. All women are tested for hepatitis B during pregnancy.

    Rotavirus is diarrhea. If diarrhea gets to be severe, people in the U.S. go to the hospital to get IV fluids. People in Africa cannot do that, for the most part. The vaccine might make sense in Africa, but not the United States. The problem for the pharmaceutical companies is, it is not profitable to make a vaccine just for Africa. So of course they lobbied, and succeeded in 2007, in getting it on the schedule for all babies in the U.S. Fun fact: it's contaminated with not one, but two different pig viruses: PCV1 and PCV2.

    The pneumococcal vaccine was added to the childhood vaccine schedule in 2001. So you did not get the vaccine. Some people think of it as the "ear infection vaccine," but studies don't seem to back that up. Ear infections seem to be an epidemic these days. If you're often around mothers of babies and toddlers, you can't avoid constantly overhearing conversations about ear infections, surgery for tube insertion, etc. My children, who have never gotten any vaccines at all, have also never had an ear infection.

    Hib is not common anymore. Other bacteria, for which there are no vaccines, have seemed to take its place. Breastfeeding is very protective agains Hib.

    Here are some books you may want to read for more information.

    http://www.amazon.com/Informed-Vaccine-Decision-He...

    http://www.amazon.com/What-Doctor-About-Childrens-...

    http://www.amazon.com/Vaccine-Epidemic-Corporate-C...

    Ugh. I just read the other responses, and of course someone recommended Tylenol. I can't wait for the day when it will be common knowledge that Tylenol should not be given to babies under one year old because it may significantly increase the risk of developing asthma, and it should also not be given before or after vaccines, because it makes vaccines not work as well.

    http://www.cbc.ca/news/health/story/2008/09/19/ast...

    http://children.webmd.com/vaccines/news/20091015/t...

    Your child CAN go to school without vaccines. 48 states offer exemptions to school and daycare vaccine requirements, for personal and/or religious beliefs.

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