Why is the racial identity of Christian Moors like Saint Benedict the Moor not questioned in the West?

There is a long list of Moors of Christian faith, like Saint Benedict the Moor, Saint Maurice, Johannes Morus, Vizir of Sicily.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benedict_the_Moor

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Maurice

When it comes to non Christian Moors, there is either a hot debate about their racial identity or a taboo about their racial identity why?

Some say that the Moors were Black, others say that they were NOT Black, but very dark. Only people from African south of the Sahara (excluding Horners sometimes) are Black. The Moors were from North Africa, as such, they were not Black only dark. Spaniards coined the expression blue blood, free of dark Moorish or Jewish blood.

Some say that the Moors were of Caucasian or Eurasian origin. They were heavily involved in the enslavement of both Europeans and Blacks (South Saharans) during their golden age. They are not Black at all since you cannot enslave your own people.

Regardless of the old European expression, black as a Moor, the Moors are coffee and milk color. They are not Black like the Bantu of Central, Southern or East Africa.

Can someone explain to me why the racial identity of the Moors be they Muslim or Christian hotly debated?

Can someone explain to me why there are dozens of old European traditions (Moor's heads) and expressions that remember/describe the Moors as Black Africans if they are not Black?

Can someone explain to me why scientific names invented by European scientists for plants and animals of a dark brown or black color contain the word maurus. http://www.ubio.org/browser/search.php?search_all=...

Update:

No trolls, PLEASE

I really want solid answers.

North Africa is not devoid of so called Black people. In rural areas and in the southern regions, there are a large number of North African Blacks or offspring of North Black Africans. Libya is 30% Black.

The lightest North Africans are concentrated around coastal areas, and in urban centers. Many of them live in the Atlas mountains.

Update 2:

@ Hatmantwo

Stop being in denial, unitl the 18C, Moor was a synonym for ***** across Europe.

European countries with no history of Black slavery or Black colonies still use word derivatives of Moor for Black Africans (Poland, Switzerland etc.)

There is nothing Afrocentric about the scientific names invented by scientific Europeans for plants or animals of a dark brown or black color containing the word maurus

There is nothing Afrocentric about old European traditions that remembered the Moors as Black Africans

1) Black beans and white rice, a favorite fish of Spaniards and Latino Americans, called Moors (black beans) and Christians (white rice) dish;

2) The King of the Moors is blackfaced during Christmas celebrations in Finland;

3) King Coffee in the Morris Dance, traditional British dance, inspired by the Moors;

4) The Black Madonna is also venerated as La Madona Mora;

5) The use of Maurice, Morus, Moor for Black African Catholic Saints (Saint Maurice of Egypt, Saint Maur

Update 3:

@ Hatmantwo

Stop being in denial, unitl the 18C, Moor was a synonym for ***** across Europe.

European countries with no history of Black slavery or Black colonies still use word derivatives of Moor for Black Africans (Poland, Switzerland etc.)

There is nothing Afrocentric about the scientific names invented by scientific Europeans for plants or animals of a dark brown or black color containing the word maurus

There is nothing Afrocentric about old European traditions that remembered the Moors as Black Africans

1) Black beans and white rice, a favorite fish of Spaniards and Latino Americans, called Moors (black beans) and Christians (white rice) dish;

2) The King of the Moors is blackfaced during Christmas celebrations in Finland;

3) King Coffee in the Morris Dance, traditional British dance, inspired by the Moors;

4) The Black Madonna is also venerated as La Madona Mora;

5) The use of Maurice, Morus, Moor for Black African Catholic Saints (Saint Maurice of Egypt, Saint Maur

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  • 8 years ago
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    The Moors were North African natives who are very similar to Horners. The divisions of humankind and classification based on race are not supported by science. There is no "black gene" that is exclusive to blacks and that is found among all blacks. Likewise, there is no "white gene".

    Any feature thought to be exclusive to blacks may be found among other populations, including so-called "Negr0id facial features". For example, very dark skin can be found among Indians, Sri Lankans, Cambodians, and other peoples. Stereotypically "black features" like a wide, flat nose may be found among many Asian populations. The skull shapes thought by scientists who promoted racial classification to be indicative of one's "blackness" or "whiteness" is not found to be consistent with the facts. In reality, the natives of sub-Sahara Africa and their descendants may have a variety of skull shapes, the same is true for most "races". "Caucasian facial features" may be found among blacks, like Horners, Nubians, and peoples along the Sahel and in other regions of Africa.

    Therefore, race is purely a racial construct and to argue that a people are black or white is futile. In truth, the Moors varied in skin tone and were often dark. This is why old European depictions of them and associations to the word "Moor" involves dark skin. They were mainly Muslim and of native African descent. Most were not Arabs nor were they white. Ethnic Arabs in North Africa, rather than native North Africans who are today Arabized, often have tan or very light skin. They do not tend to come in dark skin tones (those in North Africa) unless they mixed with the native North African population.

    There is a controversy regarding the race of any African people whose history Europeans or the West deem to be notable. Notice this is never the case when it comes to the history of "white" Europeans, East Asians, Indians, Persians, or Arabs. This is because, in European and Western societies, there is a strong association of failure, stupidity, incompetence, lowliness, evil, and primitiveness with "blackness". In order to recognize the influence that people like the Moors had on Europe, they must be redefined. The general view is that "whites" are inherently superior and more advanced and intelligent than "blacks" so in order to recognize their historic influence on "whites" and others, their "blackness" must be erased. This is done by ignoring the majority of evidence that exists that disproves this view but those who seek to define influential groups as "non-black" cling to what little depictions there exists of light brown individuals in order to support their argument. This is illogical and ignores the fact that native Africans vary greatly in skin tones. Many non-mixed, native Africans may be very light in skin tone, very dark, and anywhere in between.

  • pritz
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    4 years ago

    Christian Moors

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    Why is the racial identity of Christian Moors like Saint Benedict the Moor not questioned in the West?

    There is a long list of Moors of Christian faith, like Saint Benedict the Moor, Saint Maurice, Johannes Morus, Vizir of Sicily.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benedict_the_Moor

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Maurice

    When it comes to non Christian Moors, there is either a hot debate...

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  • Anonymous
    6 years ago

    Not to revive a dead thread, but this is an interesting question. As a collector of swords, I recently came across a replica of St. Maurice's alleged sword. Now this is supposed to be a Roman spatha from around 250 CE but it is clearly a Teutonic sword made around 1100 CE. In fact it was used as a coronation sword in Vienna until 1916. In my perusal of information about this St. Maurice, it seems around 1500 when the African slave trade became a thing in Europe, all of Western civilization seemed to have collectively forgotten that he was Theban or Egyptian or however he would have historically identified himself. It's like this picture of Jesus my grandmother had hanging in the living room when I was little, with his amber blonde hair, piercing blue eyes and rosy, fair skin. It really bugs me, you know? Even the name "Jesus" is the French corruption of a Greek name. Why not just call him Yesua? The whole thing is ridiculous. I know this isn't really an answer to your question, but I share your sentiment that Western civilization is living a lie.

  • 5 years ago

    The oldest African nation is Ethiopia. However, the oldest human population on the planet Earth are the Africans starting with the Sanz "Bushman" and Africa s early nations including early "Egypt", . All Caucasions including West Asians present with Neanderthal ansestry at least 2%. Pure Africans do not, and why is that? You see Neanderthals NEVER lived in Africa. So, in fact, it is one s DNA which determins who you are. It is not where one is born. "Berbers", "arabs" and "moors" are all adjectives that became racialized probably due to the dehumanization of Africans subsequent to the Maafa. "White Africans" is a politically social contruct desighed to alliviate the intelectual conflict caused by the febble minded notion of "black" or African inferiorities. There has never been "white Africans"...grow up folks.

  • Anonymous
    8 years ago

    It's strange, I find Europeans in modern times very hypocritical.

    It's like...they think Black People are delusional and we craft these

    theories in our mind because we are "afrocentric" and desperate for

    a piece of history. But what makes them hypocritical, is the fact it

    was Europeans themselves who said said the Moors were Black..

    just like they said the Ancient Egyptians were Black..but ever since Colonialism,

    Slavery, etc etc and Europeans having to justify there acts of wrong-doing

    they deny all notions and knowledge of Europeans of the past saying such things

    simply to devalue and dehumanize the African and Black race. It's frustrating.

    I'm just glad, not everyone out there is brainwashed by eurocentric ideology and

    rewritten perspective on history. As for the Moors, Westerners are just very ignorant

    ...unlike their biased version of Christianity that favours them Islam is not about

    race. Islam does not discriminate, the Moors were made up of Muslim Black

    Africans and Arabs fighting side by side. Because that is the power of Islam,

    it unites people. No matter what race or background.

  • 6 years ago

    A question? Why don t we have more scholars challenging and setting the record straight about the true history of Black people in the world?

  • Anonymous
    8 years ago

    Ignore this question - the poster is an Afrocentric Troll.

  • Mark
    Lv 7
    8 years ago

    Because not everybody likes to argue... pardon me, "debate lustily".

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