asked in 社會與文化語言 · 7 years ago

than that of...& the one of .

想請問下面的問題:

(1) The car of Mary is more expensive than the one of John.

請問這裡的the one of John是對的嗎?the one = the car

我知道這句可以寫成

The car of Mary is more expensive than that of John.

(2)He put down his and picked up the one of Herry.

上句是我在一本文法書看到的句子,書上寫這句是錯的,因為

在of 前面不能使用the one 來表示"所有"及其他相似的意思

那請問(2)句和(1)的差別在哪裡?要怎麼改這句才是對的呢?

(3)His expression was almost one of grief.

請問這句的one of grief可以這樣寫嗎?這裡的one= a expression

那這句和(2)寫法差在哪裡?這裡可以用one of grief,而(2)卻不能

可以解釋一下這兩句的用法嗎?

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  • 羅莉
    Lv 7
    7 years ago
    Best Answer

    (1) The car of Mary is more expensive than the one of John.

    請問這裡的the one of John是對的嗎?the one = the car

    我知道這句可以寫成

    The car of Mary is more expensive than that of John.

    兩句皆正確.

    The car為明確之物件, 另一同類的特定物件可用the one以避免重複.

    The car(單數)亦可用that避免重複; 複數則用those.

    (2)He put down his and picked up the one of Herry.

    上句是我在一本文法書看到的句子,書上寫這句是錯的,因為

    在of 前面不能使用the one 來表示"所有"及其他相似的意思

    那請問(2)句和(1)的差別在哪裡?要怎麼改這句才是對的呢?

    此句錯誤的原因在於:

    前面的his是所有代名詞, 相當於his xxx, 而the one of Henry並不與之類屬.

    正確寫法是:

    He put down his and picked up Herry's.

    He put down his (own) and picked up Henry's one.

    his = his xxx = his own

    Henry's = Henry's xxx = Henry's one

    (3)His expression was almost one of grief.

    請問這句的one of grief可以這樣寫嗎?這裡的one= a expression

    那這句和(2)寫法差在哪裡?這裡可以用one of grief,而(2)卻不能

    可以解釋一下這兩句的用法嗎?

    句子正確.

    這個one相當於an expression, 也是用來避免重複.

    與(2)的寫法不同之處在於the one為特定, one為不特定.

    2013-01-17 21:24:19 補充:

    紗大,

    He put down his gum and picked up the one of Herry.

    這句的his gum是明確事物, the one of Henry就可與之類比

    這句是正確的.

    要以that來避免重複, 那麼它所代替的字就不可消失, that=gum

    也就是說, his gum不可簡縮為his, 要這樣改寫:

    He put down his gum and picked up that of Henry.

    2013-01-18 09:02:43 補充:

    所以(1)這句是對的嗎?

    (1)He put down his gum and picked up the one of Henry.

    文法上是對的, 但一般更習慣寫為:

    He put down his gum and picked up Henry's (one).

    這樣才是完全相同的對應結構: his vs. Henry's, gum=one.

    (2)=He put down his gum and picked up that of Herry.

    文法上是對的, 但習慣寫法同上.

    2013-01-18 09:03:06 補充:

    (3)還想再請問一個問題

    that of ....的that當指示代名詞時,可以表示不可數名詞和單數可數名詞?

    對的. 例如:

    The security of my family is more important than that of my proerties.

    (4)The car is more expensive than that Peter bought last week.

    請問這句的that是對的用法嗎?

    錯誤. 正確寫法是:

    The car is more expensive than the one Peter bought last week.

    2013-01-18 11:17:09 補充:

    您句子的that Peter bought是關係子句寫法, 缺先行詞.

    that不宜辯解為先行詞且省略(作為受詞的)關代, 因為省略關代的話, 先行詞必須為明確事物the car或the one, 不可用與關代混淆的代替詞that.

    e.g.

    The car is more expensive than WHAT Peter bought last week.

    The car is more expensive than the one (that) Peter bought last week.

    2013-01-18 12:01:25 補充:

    The trees he planted were much taller than the ones you planted.

    =The trees he planted were much taller than those you planted.

    完全正確!

    2013-01-20 21:02:34 補充:

    Ed大所提出的the xxx of xxx's稱為「雙重所有格」, 適用於of的前後都是人的場合, 例如a cousin of Mr. Wilson's, a friend of mine, ....等.

    如果是事物, 無需使用雙重所有格, the car of Mary是正確的.

    2013-01-20 21:02:42 補充:

    如果Ed大不同意我的說法, 不妨用"the car of Mr."帶引號google一下.

    或用"the appointment of Mr."."帶引號google搜尋就明白了.

    這是英文的語言習慣, 為何如此誰也說不清楚, 我想是對「人」的基本尊重吧!

    2013-01-21 17:10:16 補充:

    文法書市人寫的, 別一律當聖旨, 很多作者功夫未必到位.

    如果有文法書說高級動物的所有關係只能用's而不可用of, 那麼這本文法書可以扔掉了.

    人的所有關係有時在句中為了前後修辭對稱, 用of來表示所有關係是很常見的, 尤其是法律文件.

    我在上面018提供的搜尋方式不就都是用of嗎?

    2013-01-23 12:09:07 補充:

    可以.

    例:

    I like the pictures you took, and not the ones he brought.

    I like the pictures you took, and not those he brought.

    2013-01-23 15:12:30 補充:

    1) 可以.

    I like the people who passed the exam, but I hate the ones who cheated in it.

    I like the people who passed the exam, but I hate those who cheated in it.

    2) 您所說的是複合名詞(compound noun)的一種, 與所有格無關, 也與本題版無關, 請另開題版發問.

    2013-01-23 15:13:05 補充:

    此外, 一個題版內請儘量不要無限延伸發問, 應適可而止; 倒不是嫌您點數少, 而是意見區的內容搜尋不到, 無法一併幫助日後的學習者.

    2013-01-23 15:29:16 補充:

    複合名詞可以看看這個連結:

    http://englishwizard.mysinablog.com/index.php?op=V...

    Source(s): 羅莉 - 英文文法
  • Ed
    Lv 6
    7 years ago

    第一句似乎還有一個問題沒人提到,the car of Mary 與 the one of John

    都應該改成 the car of Mary's 和 the one of John's.

    2013-01-21 13:32:11 補充:

    接收羅莉大的文法解釋。只是旅美多年從未聽聞 the car of John 或 the car of someone 的說法。建議還是用John's car為宜。

  • 7 years ago

    請問羅莉,

    這句我還是不太瞭解意思

    (2)He put down his gum and picked up the one of Herry.

    上面那句我可以寫成

    He put down his and picked up that of Herry.

    可以寫成上面那句嗎?

    還想請問the one of Herry裡the one=the gum,為什麼不可以用the one of Herry?

    2013-01-17 22:46:03 補充:

    請問羅莉大,

    所以(1)這句是對的嗎?

    (1)He put down his gum and picked up the one of Herry.

    (2)=He put down his gum and picked up that of Herry.

    (3)還想再請問一個問題

    that of ....的that當指示代名詞時,可以表示不可數名詞和單數可數名詞?

    (4)The car is more expensive than that Peter bought last week.

    請問這句的that是對的用法嗎?

    2013-01-18 10:52:32 補充:

    請問羅莉大,

    (4)The car is more expensive than that Peter bought last week.

    請問這句的that是對的用法嗎?

    錯誤. 正確寫法是:

    The car is more expensive than the one Peter bought last week.

    這裡的that=the car=the one

    為什麼這裡不能用that代替,而一定要用the one???

    2013-01-18 11:20:21 補充:

    請問羅莉大,

    The trees he planted were much taller than the ones you planted.

    =The trees he planted were much taller than those you planted.

    請問上句的the ones=those可以代換為第二句嗎?即上句可以用those??

    2013-01-20 20:23:38 補充:

    請問羅莉大,

    關於Ed大提出的意見

    (1) The car of Mary is more expensive than the one of John.

    要改成The car of Mary's is more expensive than the one of John's.

    是對的嗎?

    2013-01-21 14:02:11 補充:

    請問羅莉大,

    我又翻了一下文法書,又有一個問題出現

    上面寫

    表示人及由人組成的集合名詞和高級動物的所有關係,只能用'S的所有格,不可用OF的所有格代替

    Marry's house(O)

    the house of Marry(X)

    請問這是為什麼?不是所有人的所有格都可以換成of的所有格嗎??

    2013-01-23 11:24:32 補充:

    請問羅莉大,

    the one可以代替單數的人,那the ones可以代替複數(people)的人嗎?同時也可用those替代嗎?可以舉個例句嗎?

    2013-01-23 13:45:09 補充:

    請問羅莉大,'

    (1)我是想問the ones=those可以代替people(即複數的人)?有例句嗎?

    (2)我還想再問在所有格的表示法,有些可以"名詞+名詞",第一個名詞變成形容詞,來修飾後面的名詞,請問這有規則嗎?例如 power outage(電力中斷); device use(儀器使用) ; the car door; winter evening; summer vocation.....

    我該怎麼使用,還是這可以自創字?

    2013-01-23 15:36:01 補充:

    羅莉大,

    不好意思造成你的困擾,我只是想說在另一個版發問可能不是您回答,也造成學習的時效性.非常謝謝您的幫忙,我能了解你的用意了

  • 7 years ago

    The second sentence needs to be revised as:

    He put down his and picked up one of Herry's

    or

    He put down his and picked up Herry's.

    2013-01-17 14:11:36 補充:

    The problem you have is "possessive case" (所有格).

    2013-01-17 14:19:02 補充:

    "the one of Herry" doesn't mean "Herry's" or "one of Herry's". In the second sentence, it talks about "his" and "Herry's" (or one of Herry's), so you cannot use "the one of Herry".

    2013-01-17 14:47:46 補充:

    The other sentences just use so-called "pronoun", NOT the "possessive pronoun".

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