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Anonymous asked in Politics & GovernmentPolitics · 8 years ago

Should we pull the plug on our the government-union teachers who produce such miserable results?

12/11/12 http://cnsnews.com/news/article/only-7-detroit-pub...

In the public schools in Detroit, Mich., according to the U.S. Department of Education, only 7 percent of the eighth graders [in the Detroit school system] are grade-level proficient or better in reading.

2/7/07 Washington Post: “The scores from the 2006 Program for International Student Assessment showed that U.S. 15-year-olds trailed their peers from many industrialized countries. The average science score of U.S. students lagged behind those in 16 of 30 countries in the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development, a Paris-based group that represents the world's richest countries. The U.S. students were further behind in math, trailing counterparts in 23 countries.”

3/9/11 AP: An estimated 82 percent of U.S. schools could be labeled as "failing" under the nation's No Child Left Behind Act this year, Education Secretary Arne Duncan said Wednesday. "We should get out of the business of labeling schools as failures and create a new law that is fair and flexible, and focused on the schools and students most at risk," Duncan said. [Translation: lower standards…again]

9/24/12 http://www.theatlanticwire.com/national/%E2%80%A6: "SAT Reading Scores Are the Lowest They've Been in 40 Years"

The Chicago teachers strike is the paradigm of why our government “education”sytem is a disaster:

-9/17/12 http://news.yahoo.com/chicago-mayor-seek: With an average salary of $76,000, Chicago teachers are among the highest-paid in the nation...

-http://www.schooldigger.com/go/IL/city/C: In Illinois the Chicago School District ranks 691st out of of 768 cities.

-The teacher’s union won the battle and got their big pay raises.

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The teachers' response will be, like most union members are wont to do: "Give us more pay and benefits and we'll get the job done!" or they'll blame the parents...or America -- anyone but themselves for their failure.

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  • Anonymous
    8 years ago
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    We need merit based pay, badly.

  • Clara
    Lv 6
    8 years ago

    If teachers were paid comparable to what they could make in the private sector with two bachelor's or a master's, you wouldn't be getting so many bottom-feeders as teachers. Yeah, there are good teachers who take a pay cut to save the youth of America from the yawning jaws of ignorance. But most, in my experience, are people who couldn't get a job anywhere else. Our least and dumbest frequently become teachers because it's the best they can do.

    Also, you can't compare success across different classrooms. The same teacher can teach 100% of smart, motivated kids more than a full class year's worth of information as the teacher that can teach 10% of dumb, proud-to-be-ignorant kids. All classrooms are not the same.

    The problem is that teaching is an art, not a science. There's no way to accurately measure a teacher's abilities. The best way, and the way we used before NCLB, was administrative oversight. Turning that over to standardized testing to make things easier on the bean counters has pretty much destroyed public education in this country. I have a relative who taught freshman foundations in a small college for a few years. The kids coming out of HS these days can't even spell or use punctuation. They write papers in txt spk. But they sure know how to take a test! And, of course, that's what'll prove useful to them in their careers. *sarcasm*

  • ?
    Lv 7
    8 years ago

    Find the Best school systems in the world and you will find Teachers that are Unionized. You should keep looking for a better way to improve bad schools.

    I would say anything founded on less skills and less pay for Teachers is doomed.

    In an effort to close a yawning budget deficit, Michigan has approved a proposal to drastically shrink Detroit's troubled school system over the next few years.

    The plan calls for the closure of 70 schools, which would cut the number of schools in the district in half by 2014, leaving only 72 public schools in Detroit. The closures would be on top of the 59 that were shuttered last year.

    As a result, high school class sizes would jump to 60 students each over the next few years.

  • 4 years ago

    Public college lecturers train in lower than best areas, to children whose mum and dad might not be interested within the larger academic expertise, and simply plunk them down in entrance of the television for hours on end, a few of these youngsters under no circumstances see a booklet before they go to college. The moms and dads themselves aren't always up on things like prenatal care, or not consuming, and that might influence a child for years. One job is far toughter than the opposite, one job more dangerous than the opposite, trying to pin it on the instructor when ten kids fail, but twenty more move is foolish. Tying a sixth grade teachers pay to what her youngsters are doing is pointless, their moms and dads have them for 5 years, six different teachers have had them before, and now she's going to be judged on that childs efficiency?

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  • 8 years ago

    What do the teachers have to work with?

  • 8 years ago

    no, your society should not be euthanized to help the rich sleep better.

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