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Anonymous asked in SportsOutdoor RecreationHunting · 8 years ago

Which you think is better for simulating 5.56 rifle. 22lr Umarex colt S&W 15-22 or CCMG 22lr conversion kit.?

Which would you go with? The Umerex colt 22lr looks cheaply made internally and has the bolt caught which doesn't work on the outside like a regular rifle would, and above all they want a lot of money for it.The Smith&Wesson 15-22 is the opposite of the colt in every way the trigger is lighter and the outside is polymer/plastic which makes it lighter. Don't know if sights are the same? The CMMG 22lr conversion kit works with any 5.56 rifle but you have to pay more if you want to have the bolt to hold open and buy mags that constantly are back ordered never found one in all the times I've looked for them online plus shipping for all of the stuff Which is $.

My situation is that I don't have a lot of $$$ to buy a real Colt model sp6920 5.56 m4 to much money right now could be in the future that I would have enough money to buy one. Should I wait save up the money buy colt 5.56, Umarex Colt 22lr, Smith&Wesson 15-22 or CCMG 22lr conversion kit.

I plan to go to the military and want to practice on the 5.56 m4 plate form which is what they use in the military, and like I said before don't have a ton of money so I'll be shooting 22lr ammo instead of 5.56 ammo. I'll be shooting 22lr either way some day when I have the $ i'll use 5.56 out of it but for now that's all I can afford .Also can you have a gun with you while your on base that's personaly your. which one is the best? Im looking for feel and realism in the gun which I know is a lot to be asking for especially from a 22lr.

http://www.colt22rimfire.com/index.php?page=rifles

http://www.smith-wesson.com/webapp/wcs/stores/serv...

http://www.cmmginc.com/category_s/1851.htm

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  • august
    Lv 7
    8 years ago
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    Lime Green Medic nailed it.

    Spend your time, money, and effort on physical fitness.

    Go get a gym membership, do cardio and weight training, and do a LOT of running. That will benefit you far more than any sort of firearm practice.

    Oh, and one more thing: you need to pay more attention in your English classes. If you intend to be in the military, you need to know how to communicate properly... and you don't. Your English teachers should be kicking themselves for allowing you to pass their classes.

  • 8 years ago

    "I plan to go to the military and want to practice on the 5.56 m4 plate form which is what they use in the military, "

    We've said it before, and we'll say it again: This is the absolute WRONG thing to do, whether it's a .22 or an actual perfect copy of a US Military M16.

    The military will teach you THEIR way to handle firearms. Any "practice" you do with a similiar platform beforehand will cause you to have habits you will have to UNLEARN in order to learn the military way. During that unlearning process, you will find the incentive training to be less than pleasant.

    It is MUCH better to start with a clean slate when it comes to firearms and the US Military.

    Seriously. Ask ANY veteran from the combat services. They'll tell you that more important than firearms is physical conditioning. They are NOT kidding.

    But it's no fun to run or work out -- you want to play with the toys and I understand that. But seriously, the US Military doesn't have a "break in" period for YOU when you get there...they basically put you through a crash course and if you're not already in good physical condition, you are behind the 8-ball and they have every reason to make your life hell. And you have absolutely no idea what that means if you haven't been there. No, Full Metal Jacket isn't the HALF of it.

    Seriously, you want to buy a rifle? Buy something UNLIKE what the US Military uses. That way, you won't be sorry when your Drill Instructors must teach you the Right Way and don't have a whole bunch of screwed up habits they have to stop you from doing.

  • 8 years ago

    You don't need an expensive rifle to learn the basics of rifle marksmanship.

    An inexpensive bolt-action or semi-auto.22LR rifle from Marlin or Savage or Ruger will be fine. Heck, you could even use a .177 caliber air rifle to learn marksmanship. Now that's affordable! :-)

    If you want training similar to military rifle marksmanship training, take a rifle marksmanship class from Project Appleseed. http://appleseedinfo.org/

    Youtube has some nice WW-II vintage M-1 Garand training films that teach the proper methods of body positioning, sight-alignment & sight picture, breathing and trigger control. Even though rifles have undergone some changes, the information and methodology of using them hasn't changed much in 70+ years.

    As other people have mentioned, improving your physical and mental conditioning is more important than owning a "5.56 m4 plate form" type of rifle.

    Rifles have sights. Different rifles have different sights. Learn basic rifle marksmanship from an NRA or Project Appleseed training course and you'll be able to adapt to using the sights on just about any rifle you encounter (especially if you read the owner's manual beforehand).

    Personal ownership of firearms while living on a base and assigned military quarters is complicated.

    1) There are regulations and procedures that often require personal firearms to be stored in an armory. Consult with on-base legal counsel beforehand to avoid problems.

    2) In the U.S., you could rent a storage unit off-base and keep personal property there, at your own risk and subject to the laws of the State the storage unit is in. If outside of the U.S., you are subject to the laws of the host nation. (Depending upon where you are, either of those conditions could make possession of a specific firearm illegal while within their borders).

    3) It doesn't hurt to have an insurance policy to cover loss or damage to personal property that you cannot easily afford to replace.

    4) You could be given orders to deploy anywhere at anytime. This makes owning a lot of personal property a pain-in-the-@ss if you don't have some way of storing it safely and securely.

    Good luck.

  • 8 years ago

    The Umarex and Smith & Wesson are both quality firearms, but conversion kits NEVER work as well as either a dedicated rifle or dedicated .22 upper.

    I think for simplicity's sake, the conversion kit, but if you want as little jams, stovepipes, astronomically better accuracy, just go with either of the dedicated rifles you mentioned.

    Source(s): Personal experience.
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  • 8 years ago

    My dad has the S&W 22 and its really great, seems like out to 50 or so yards it has similar ballistic properties in terms of flight path and sighting as a .223. the S&W is relatively cheap too.

    Mossberg makes a 22 as well http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/prod/Mossberg_22_Ta...

    that works just as well as the S&W and typically goes for cheaper.

  • 8 years ago

    buy a cheap 22 rifle from walmart and go to your local shoting range ,practise makes perfect,then save money and buy a got ak47 or m16 or whateever you want umarex is junk air guns making real firearms

    when you buy ar15 buy whyndam former busmaster,armalite,colt,or a used surplus or buy the uper first then a lower and take to gun store....if you can save $1000 buy them separate

    http://centerfiresystems.com/ar_firearms.aspx CHEAP ARS $600

    http://www.survivalistboards.com/showthread.php?t=... BULIDING A AR15$600

    http://www.ar15-kits.com/index1.html COMPLETE KIT $500

    http://www.surplusammo.com/saa-ar15-stripped-lower... $80 RECIEVER FFL

    probably $100 to 150 labor from your local gun store for $750 you get a great rifle

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