roderick asked in SportsBasketball · 7 years ago

86 celtics vs 95-96 bulls? Seriously?

Please give educated answers when you reply. Everyone that keeps siding with the Celtics keeps saying how great that lineup was. The bulls have the back court advantage. Ron Harper could still drive the lane. Mike,need I say more? Bird vs Pippen would be a good matchup. Rodman could guard Mchale,but sadly that would actually be the Celtics only real advantage. I personally would use Kukoc at center, as he had range,and could shoot the three,and lest we forget he was way more athletic and had a quicker first step. Neither Parrish nor Walton could hang with him. Kukoc would simply draw them out the lane because he won't keep missing three and jumpers. The celtics would go to the bench way earlier. If you really believe that Rick Carlisle could handle Ron Harper or Jordan for period of time,you are crazy. One more quick thing,I saw where someone said that the only reason Jordan won a championship was because the old war horses retired, you have to be a retard. So when that team got escorted out by the Pistons a year later, what's your excuse? Actually they broke up after the 90 season. Bulls win in 5,in a seven game series. No way the Celtics bench can hold any type of big lead for the starters that the Bulls starters who would be in much longer because they would be killing the Celtics starters at guard and center. So please prove me wrong.

Update:

Bill Walton cannot check Kukoc because Walton couldn't keep up with Kukoc would run Parrish and Walton Ragged. Who is guarding Kukoc? Wedman is guarding who? Ainge was never on Mike's level,and because Ron Harper had the ability to drve and shoot jumpers,Ainge wouldn't be able to handle him. Kukoc was 6'11,and was a pretty good defender. That celtics team wouldn't match up well against the 1992 Kincks team.

Update 2:

Is that why the same starting 5 a year later were escorted out by the pistons? The same starting 5,so no excuses. The Bulls never played the celtics in playoffs after the 1987 playoffs.of the 86-87 season,so please stop. Bird is shutting who down? Is would be a great matchup though. Unless Mchale is scoring 100,they aren't winning 2 games in a series. I did make one error,I meant the 1993 Knicks.

Update 3:

if that same celtics team played that 93 knicks team, derek harper beats dj, ainge gets murdered by greg anthony, the celtics only advantage is sf, mchale will not dominate mase or oakley,and no one on that celtics team will want to play under 80's rules,beacuse dj,ainge,mchale and anyone else gets their *** handed to them if anyone gets to chippy. Pat destroys walton and parrish.so like i said the 86 celtics cannot beat the 93 knicks.

Update 4:

This is the first time i have mentioned Longley, he would only come in to spell Kukoc. So please stop dodging Kukoc at center. You have no answer for him. He is going to cause double homicide at center. Neither parrish or walton can ever match kukoc,again kukoc,is 6'11,with a quicker first step,length,he is more athletic,and has range,not mention he can shoot the three. Now I have said kukoc at center,are you sure the celtics win?

Update 5:

scottie in his prime was way better than scottie in his first 2-3 years. i wonder if bird could wear 1992 scottie out,when they played on the dream team? no,he couldn't. but it's typical,celtics fans want to use young mike and young scottie to make an arguement. kukoc is a complete mismatch at forward or center. you cannot put mchale on him,that's totally unfair. parish could not run with kukoc,nor could walton, kukoc had just hit his prime like when he got to chicago. no one has the athleticism to hang with kukoc. if kukoc is hitting 15-18 ft jumpers and threes mind you,what shot blocker is going to have any energy to play any type of defense after say the 1st quarter. walton won't,nor will parish. you can't have them on the court at the same. that would mean picking your poison,at least another way. but, pick your poison, who's guarding him mchale or parish, or walton?

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scottie in his prime was way better than scottie in his first 2-3 years. i wonder if bird could wear 1992 scottie out,when they played on the dream team? no,he couldn't. but it's typical,celtics fans want to use young mike and young scottie to make an arguement. kukoc is a complete mismatch at forward or center. you cannot put mchale on him,that's totally unfair. parish could not run with kukoc,nor could walton, kukoc had just hit his prime like when he got to chicago. no one has the athleticism to hang with kukoc. if kukoc is hitting 15-18 ft jumpers and threes mind you,what shot blocker is going to have any energy to play any type of defense after say the 1st quarter. walton won't,nor will parish. you can't have them on the court at the same. that would mean picking your poison,at least another way. but, pick your poison, who's guarding him mchale or parish, or walton?

Update 7:

where did i throw a fit? pointing out pippen in 95 was better than pippen in 87,88,or 89? i only wish 93 scottie,who was a top 5 player,could have played with mike. you are still basing the 86 celtics beating that team on playing 86 mike with no help,or 88 mike with a green scottie. scottie in his prime is not worn out by larry bird,like i said. i wonder if bird could wear out 92 scottie? so that goes away. please point out where i am pouting please. i could care less,because you have no answer for kukoc. 95 scottie could take larry bird. i failed to mention scottie was 1st team all defensive 8 straight years, mike had 7 straight,then a few more. rodman was all defensive team,multiple times. so please help me help you. point out where i am pouting because you don't agree with me. 95 scottie was still a top 10 player in the league.

Update 8:

again who is stopping kukoc? after so many jumpers,because kukoc had range someone is going to have to run out and contest. kukoc could pump fake and drive past them. you have to save your help for ainge or johnson,they aren't shutting down #23,or coming close to it. mchale was better in the post that shaq,robinson,or ewing,or duncan? you need prayer if you believe that. and getting back to the 93 knicks,i stand corrected. greg anthony starts at point, who is stopping him? dj coudlnt, ainge would get worked by starks. you can't bring help from bird over,because they can just pass it ewing who will again murder anyone who tries to check him. the 86 celtics were good for the 80's. they can't beat the 72-10 bulls,93 knicks,much less either rockets championship team. sam cassell presents another instant miss match. sorry.

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  • 7 years ago
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    That 86' team was stacked...

    And Jordan was at his best during the first 3-peat...

    The Celtics were full of HOF'ers, even Bill Walton was coming off of the bench.

    I disagree that the Bulls would win in 5 games, that's just ridiculous. This series would go to 7 games.

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  • No Rodman couldn't guard Mchale, look at how Mchale did against the 80's Pistons......and Bird made minced meat out of the Pistons D...so an older Rodman would do worse, Scottie didn't ever shutdown Bird. Parish and Mchale would eat Longley and Rodman ALIVE....seriously though...No.

    In 87-88 the Celtics were injury riddled and getting older...You said 1986 Celtics BIG difference man. The frontline is the big difference; they took care of Hakeem and Ralph Sampson(healthy Ralph was a great player), Longley and Rodman can't be compared to the Rockets frontline... and the Celtics played great team Defense...Bid included..that's a no go for the Bulls man. The Knicks had NO offense, they were a great defensive team...and If the Celtics went through the Pistons, 76ers, Milwaukee, Rockets, etc....the Knicks would be a cake walk. DJ is 10x the player Harper is man, c'mon now? Secondly, the rebounding doesn't even come close(look at their offensive and defensive rebounds)...the celtics would get WAY more opportunities...Mchale was the craftiest dude on the block ever aside from Hakeem...how does he get his *** handed to him? Longley weak rebounder and not fast enough for Parish I think..Secondly the training and nutrition science is what changed its not that they were laboratory designed players or something. The 80's players did best with what they knew about sports training and nutrition...from the 50's all the way to the late 80's they literally believed(b/c the medical field was telling them..) for a fact that muscle slowed you down so nobody lifted...nobody including MJ(remember when he was skinny as hell).

    The only time Kukoc played center was against teams with no center worth a sh!t...seriously. Remember, Kukoc didn't excel at center enough to put him up against the knicks, Orlando, Hornets caliber bigs..that triangle offense wouldn't do well against Celtics shot blockers and overall D. Pippen cannot shutdown Bird just as much as ainge or DJ couldn't handle Mike....I know b/c Pippen didn't...Bird got Pip worn out in games...Pippen had one job to stay on Bird and he couldn't do it enough to say he shut him down...

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  • 4 years ago

    The bulls starting 5 could be kerr,mike,scottie,kukoc, and longley. Kerr vs dj can be fascinating. Ainge has no prayer of guarding mike so chicken would have to. Ainge cannot protect scottie either so mchale would have to and unluckily for mchale he's no longer just right adequate defensively to manage him. Kukoc goes to terrorize whoever you set at four because he has handles like a safeguard, can drive the lane,shoot the 3 and the j not to point out he is 6'10. At 5 which you could put longley like it even concerns. Bulls in 5. Ainge used to be in no way excellent ample notably when Mike had scottie seem at why he went 0-2 in those finals

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  • MM
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    7 years ago

    Mchale would DESTROY rodman.

    Parish would be much better than longley

    Dennis Johnson vs Ron Harper? DJ.. And it's not close r

    Bird vs pippen would be good. But overall birds better

    The only advantage the bulls have is at SG and other than that, celtics blow out the bulls

    *EDIT* see I don't get this. You claim people aren't giving "educated answers" because they don't agree with you. Dennis Johnson is much better than Ron Harper. Kevin mchale is years better than Dennis rodman. Parish would easily handle Longley. The celtics front line would do decent against Jordan and pippen.

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  • 7 years ago

    Dennis Johnson,Danny Ainge,Bill Walton,Scott Wedman every heard of these guys ?

    these guys were good players of the 86 celtics

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  • 7 years ago

    They have Luc Longley at the Center one of the best passing Center in NBA history. Plus his height is 7'2 his decent both offensively and defensively.

    95-96 Bulls all the way.

    Source(s): Lieutenant Deng
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  • 96' Bulls

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  • well obviously yur not getting to hear what you want so you throw fits i might aswell not give a good answer

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  • 7 years ago

    You just dont get It do you. Who do the bulls have at C?

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  • 7 years ago

    I need these 2 pts plz! :(

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