Does Paul Ryan only pretend to care about fiscal responsibility when a Democrat is president?

When Bush was spending like a drunken sailor and expanding the Federal Government to levels not seen since LBJ, Paul Ryan was voting "YES" right with Bush's bills.

At least LBJ's expansion of government had to do with serving and assisting the People, whereas Bush's expansion dealt more with Orwellian eavesdropping and less Freedom. The TSA that Cons complain about today? Bush created that.

Here are some of the bills Ryan voted YES on, which were anything but "fiscally conservative":

The Iraq War - 800 billion dollars thus far, final cost expected to be 1.9 trillion after interest paid on borrowed money, and caring for injured veterans

Medicare Part D - over 500 billion thus far

Bush Tax Cuts - roughly 1 trillion thus far

TARP - roughly 1 trillion

Creation of the TSA - costs about 8 billion a year.

Creation of the Department of Homeland Security - costs about 60 billion a year

Patriot Act - can't find how much it costs since it's a widespread all-encompassing bill, but it's safe to say the cost is in the billions at least.


Paul Ryan symbolizes the hypocrisy of the GOP because Republicans were anything but "fiscally conservative" when Bush was in power. Republicans only pretend to care about fiscal discipline whenever a Democrat is in office.


IceT: False equivalency. Democrats don't run on being fiscal hawks. Republicans do. But when Bush was in office, Republicans spent like drunken sailors.

Democrats run on cutting spending when necessary, and spending/stimulating when necessary.

Update 2:

John Hinkle: Just because we had money off the tail end of the Clinton economy doesn't mean we should just squander the surplus and spend like crazy. Look where it got us.

You are a fool to claim that spending like crazy when you have a surplus makes sense. Eventually that surplus runs out. And it did. Bush should have capitalized off the surplus, and doubled the size of our surplus. Not say "oh look, I have money, let me spend it all."

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  • 8 years ago
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    This is nothing new for Republicans, it is the same old 'Two Santa Claus' Theory.

    Read about it and you'll see exactly what the Republican plan is.

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  • 4 years ago

    Paul Ryan sounds identical to Rush Limbaugh on the Radio. I listened to him for 2 hours on a auto go back and forth when I had to stay awake and i could not think it. Once I noticed him in individual he appears distinct than what he appeared like. He's one other Gingrich. Gingrich bragged about being a innovative Like Teddy Roosevelt on an interview with Glenn Beck. The Neo Conservative Agenda operates on the premise of the Noble Lie. And there is no reality evaluation just like the Liberals are regularly complaining about with the Neo Conservatives. Their intellect's are already made up, do not confuse them with the facts. That's how they can construct the ludicrous Orwellian lies again and again. Like, don't tax the rich so they may be able to create jobs for you. And they feel it due to the fact they follow the Straussian superb

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  • IceT
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    8 years ago

    Does O'Bama and Democrats only care about fiscal responsibility when a Republican is in office?! O'Bama called Bush irresponsible and unpatriotic for adding $4 trillion to the debt in 8 years before he add $6 trillion to the debt in 4 years!

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    Senator O'Bama voted for TARP, the creation of the TSA, and the creation of Homeland Security!

    President O'Bama passed the Bush tax cuts twice!

    President O'Bama has signed the Patriot Act EVERY TIME it has come up for renewal. Despite his campaign promise to do away with it!

    Edit... It isn't false equivalency when the Democrats whine about spending only when Republicans are in office. If they said nothing at all about it then that would be false equivalency and you would have a point!

    By the way here is O'Bama in 2004 saying the deficit is an enormous problem!

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    What was that you were saying about false equivalency?!

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  • Kyle
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    8 years ago

    Don't care what party, any candidate will say anything to get elected, because it's nothing but a job and a pay check to them.

    Why do you think Romney is so afraid to take a stance on anything? Why do you think Obama has flip flopped on gay marriage in the last 8 years?

    It goes both ways. And you're pretty ignorant to think it doesn't.

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  • 8 years ago

    Blows me away how you can try to hide that trillions of dollars

    of spending by pointing the finger at at least one person with integrity

    enough to ATTEMPT a budget pass before the party of NO

    (after the transparency and bipartisan bs, mind you)

    Your guy .......four years

    Seems a little lame to be pointing at Bush

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  • matt h
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    8 years ago

    i didnt know he was ever serious about spending cuts, i mean he voted for all the bailouts

    i think he just says whatever will get his face on TV

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  • Anonymous
    8 years ago

    Ever get the impression that democrats who ask questions like this are desperately trying to hide what democrats are doing to America?

    About 90 years ago democrat President Wilson (1913-1918) presented the democrat party’s Agenda in broad terms, saying “You are not here merely to make a living. You are here to enable the world to live more amply, with greater vision, and with a finer spirit of hope and achievement. You are here to enrich the world. You impoverish yourself if you forget this errand.” He may have been the first democrat to realize the value of multiculturalism (“If it ain’t American, it’s good!”) in deconstructing America, saying, “No nation is fit to sit in judgment upon any other nation.” Obama put it this way: "Every nation is exceptional in its own way."

    Democrat President Roosevelt (1933-1945) articulated the Agenda in his speech before Congress on January 11, 1944:

    “We have accepted, so to speak, a second Bill of Rights...” which included:

    -The right to earn enough to provide adequate food and clothing and recreation

    -The right of every family to a decent home

    -The right to adequate medical care and the opportunity to achieve and enjoy good health

    -The right to adequate protection from the economic fears of old age, sickness, accident, and unemployment.

    The Agenda advanced hugely with LBJ’s Great Society. Obama’s “Hope and Change” is a Great Leap Forward.

    The Agenda is? To change America into a European style welfare state.

    Democrats overwhelmingly support it:

    -2/4/10 Gallup poll: 61% of liberals have a positive view of socialism.

    -6/2/11 Gallup poll: 71% of democrats favor re-distributing wealth.

    -Now they have national health care, the foundation of all welfare and socialist states.

    Don’t like the Constitution? Vote democrat.

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  • 8 years ago

    I guess you could say he "EVOLVED" .

    Of course there is a difference, when you have money it is ok to spend it, when you are broke it is a wise idea to STOP spending.

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