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Lv 4

Your take on Genesis 38:8-10 now Christians.... lets be honest here.?

A story so eponymous it gave way to its own neologism - onanism an archaic term for masterbation.

Basically God kills Er. Why? We don't reall find out. However in a stroke of good luck Er's father Judah, has given you the right, nay the duty, to have sex with your dead brother's wife. Onan is a bit apprehensive at first, but agrees to go though with the bizarre sheme to create a " true heir" to Er. he begins to have sex with the girl, but at the last minute decides to pull out and spill " His seed upon the ground" God is so irked he decides to kill Onan too, and thus nobody gets the Heir. This story is the basis for the Christian condemnation of masterbation and birth conrtol.

The moral of the story? In the words of Monty Python, " Every spern is scared."

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  • 9 years ago

    I think you're a little confused. Number one this was a time when people weren't as civilized as they are today, they were nomadic, everything they ate they either grew or killed, women were praised not on how nice their hair looked that day, but on how many sons they could give their husband, because every man wanted lots of sons to raise to hunt and farm and for his name to be known and to form large groups of people over time.

    God didn't kill Er. He died. It happens. It's life, it doesn't last forever and we all go at anytime. He had a wife left behind and everyone in the family was aware that he was never given a son, so it was decided (and the wife had no problem with this) that in his honor, one of his brothers would sleep with his wife so she could bear a son, and it would still be his family's blood and name, not some stranger. And that son would grow up and become a man that honors his late father. It was a gift to Er, he wouldn't have been angry with his brother over it. Things were different back then.

    Also, his brother wasn't right about it though, he didn't do it out of trying to do something for his brother and give him an heir, he did it solely for the sexual pleasure and pulled out at the last second. This was so disrespectful and wrong, especially going by this time and these customs, that God cursed him and He died.

    By the way, I'm a Christian who is on a five year period birth control after having my child and fully believe masturbation is healthy and a gift from God. Why else would women be able to orgasm so easily without penetration, just stimulation from their own hand? Don't categorize Christians, because none that I know are against birth control. Maybe some extremists, but there are extremists to any and every belief.

  • 9 years ago

    By acting contrary to the purpose of bother-in-law marriage, Onan demonstrated disrespect for his father. In disobedience to his father's command, he selfishly held back from preserving Er's family line. This was also an expression of hatred for Er, as Onan worked, not for, but against his dead brother's interests. Onan callously disgraced his brothers widow. He selfishly bared her nakedness, but withheld from her the rightful due of motherhood. He also showed that he had no appreciation for "sacred things", as there was the possibility that the promised Messiah would have come through the offspring he might have fathered by means of Tamar. All these factors revealed that Onan was a wicked man with no regard for the interests of others when his own interest seems to be at stake.It is because of the baseness of Onan's reason for failing to give offspring's to his dead brother that Jehovah killed him.

    The case that Onan being one that involved selfish disregard for the purpose of brother-in-law marriage cannot be use to condemn birth control. It is noteworthy that the Bible nowhere discusses the use of contraceptives or birth control in marriage. Nor does it say christians are obliged to produce children.

  • 9 years ago

    Back in the days of Judah it was customary to carry out such acts so your brother's line didn't fade out. Quite often lands and posessions were involved and without an heir, the brothers wife would looise everything.

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    Lv 7
    9 years ago

    "so whenever he slept with his brother’s wife, he spilled his semen on the ground" actually sounds more like coitus interruptus than masturbation to me.

    But hey, who am I to know more about sex than a bunch of monks and celibate priests. Not as if they would spend their whole time masturbating.

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  • 9 years ago

    It wasn't the masturbation that got Er in trouble. It was the fact that he would rather masturbate in front of his wife than give her a child that would be heir to the family fortune. It was greed, hate and being a rotten husband.

  • Anonymous
    9 years ago

    rubbish ...

    you obvioulsy miss the meaning of the story ...

    1. it is a jewish cultural thing ..

    2. a lesson to be learnt here .. and its NOT about masturbation (learn to spell) nor birth control.

  • Anonymous
    9 years ago

    This wouldn't be a problem if they had condoms and god wasn't a nosy perv.

  • Anonymous
    9 years ago

    Oh get ready! Oh baby yeah! Yeah! Open your mouth! Oh! Oh! Oh!Oh yeah!Ahhhhhhhhhh.....

  • Anonymous
    9 years ago

    Lol, the bible is retarded.

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