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Anonymous asked in Politics & GovernmentPolitics · 8 years ago

Why do democrats lust for changing America into a European-style socialist state?

-2/4/10 Gallup poll: 61% of liberals have a positive view of socialism.

-6/2/11 Gallup poll: 71% of democrats favor re-distributing wealth.

Europeans pay higher taxes to pay for their huge government worker’s pensions and benefits. They drive crappy little cars and motor scooters. They pay twice as much for gas. They are taxed over 20% on everything they buy plus they have to pay income taxes. And their living space per person is less than our “poverty” class here.

If you've traveled to Europe over a long period of time (like I did) you would have seen Europe shrink before your very eyes: the cars got smaller; motor scooters proliferated; separate housing disappeared to be replaced by giant apartment buildings; urban living conditions became the norm while rural life declined; traffic conditions are near impossible. And this is what the democrat party is trying to force us to accept: a European living standard which is inferior to that of our “poverty” class. Here's the evidence:

The following is from the June 2004 Swedish Timbro Institute study, http://www.timbro.se/bokhandel/pdf/9175665646.pdf:

“Poverty is a highly relative concept. As we saw in the preceding section, for example, 40 per cent of all Swedish households would rank among low-income households in the USA, and an even greater number in the poorer European countries would be classed as low income earnings by the American definition.”

“What does it mean to be poor in the USA? Major living standard surveys carried out in the USA at regular intervals show the poor to have a surprisingly high standard of living.”

See Table 3:2. (percentages of items poverty-level households own):

Home ownership 45.9%

Car 72.8%

2 or more cars 30.2%

Air conditioning 76.6

Refrigerator 96.9

Washing machine 64.7

Drying cabinet/tumbler drier 55.6

Dishwasher 33.9

Garbage disposal 29.7

Microwave 73.3

Colour TV 97.3

2 or more colour TV sets 55.3

Cable or satellite TV 62.6

Wide screen TV 26.3

Video or DV 78.0

2 or more video and DVD players 25.3

Stereo 58.6

Telephone answering machine 35.3

Mobile phone 26.6

PC 24.6

Internet access 18.0

“Another indicator of the relatively good material standard of living among the American poor can be obtained by comparing dwelling space among poor households in the USA with average dwelling space in Europe (in other words all Europeans, not just their poverty level population). Table 3:3 compares dwelling space in various countries. Average total dwelling space in Europe is just under 1,000 sq. ft. In the USA it is 1,875 sq. ft for the average household and 1,200 sq. ft for poor households. Adjusting for size of household, one finds that poor households in the USA have slightly more dwelling space than the average European. The average American household has a home that is 80 per cent larger than its average European counterpart. Europeans, in other words, are more crowded in an American perspective.”

Table 3:3. Dwelling space. Various countries. (Nation/year study taken/living space per person)

Austria/year study taken 2000/living space per person 406.2 square feet

Belgium/1991/371.4

Denmark/2001/558.0

France/1996/378.8

Finland/2000/392.0

Germany/1998/424.0

Greece/1991/285.5

Ireland/2001/316.7

Italy/1991/462.7

Luxembourg/2001/517.3

Netherlands/2000/439.4

Portugal/1998/279.1

Spain/1991/278.1

Sweden/1997/460.1

UK/1996/381.1

All of Europe/average 395.7

USA poor households/1993/average 438.6

USA all households/1993/average 721.2

“Clearly, then, there are very big differences between the American and European economies. A long period of high growth has made the USA far and away the world’s richest region. For several centuries Europe led the world in terms of prosperity and progress. As little as a hundred years ago, much of the American continent was virgin wilderness. Today, a hundred years later, the USA has completely overtaken Europe to become the unrivalled leader of the world economy. Most Americans have a standard of living which the majority of Europeans will never come any where near. The really prosperous American regions have nearly twice the affluence of Europe. It is worth reminding ourselves what this means. In these regions the average American can get exactly twice as much of everything as the average European. Which goes to show the importance of an economic policy to stimulate growth.”

END

And the shrinking continues, as we speak. Socialism is bankrupting the EU. Its socialist elites are telling people. "You must accept a lower standard of living!"

Want to “live small," and ever-smaller, like Europeans? Vote for the Socialist Democrat Party, ruled by filthy rich elitists like the Clintons, the Kerry’s, the Kennedy’s, the Obama’s, Pelosi, Reid, Soros, Jackson, Sharpton, Hollywood, the media elites and union leaders.

“Know thine enemy”

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  • Don M
    Lv 7
    8 years ago
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    Socialism and wealth redistribution are dead end streets. Liberals still advocate these failed policies because making people dependent on government empowers liberals. They can forever scare a dependent populace by telling them "Republicans want to take away your benefits!" What they don't realize is that capitalism's greatest benefit is self reliance.

    Thanks for a well researched and thoroughly informative essay,

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  • Lopes
    Lv 4
    8 years ago

    1) The only socialist state in Europe is Albania. Go find the definition of Socialism.

    2) USA ranks very poorly in ANY quality of life ranking. the health index is around 30th, similar to Portugal

    3) Crime levels in the USA are 10x higher in Europe

    4) Europeans are not born in debt. An American is born and already has to save for college and health coverage

    5) USA is more bankrupt than Portugal, Spain, Italy or Ireland. Only looks good compared to Greece. The difference is that USA controls rating agency.

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  • BruceN
    Lv 7
    8 years ago

    We don't need to import their entire politico-economiic system, but can't you see the sense in borrowing their good ideas? Like single payer healthcare, no arbitrary dismissals, reasonable unemployment comp and free education?

    Also. When you talk of standard of living, you are speaking of averages. But if you separate it by percentile of population, you find that our top 5% live so much much better than anyone else in the world, while our poorest 25% live worse than the lowest 25% in Greece, for instance. So even the bankrupts socialists are not as far behind us as you might like to imagine.

    European CEOs earn 1/4 of what ours do and pay almost twice the tax. I realize their salaries are set by their Boards of Directors, but can't we do something to encourage ours to be more sensible? The extra $24 million each average CEOs earns each year here, could be used to hire 300 new workers.

    America used to be the land of opportunity, the home of the Horatio Alger story, but today, a person born poor in the USA is five times more likely to die poor than a European. The USA was once also number one in many things, not just military strength. We have some of the finest healthcare in the world, but the healthcare of the median American is no better than that of Cuba, which has a tenth of our standard of living, but is ten times better than Haiti.

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  • Anonymous
    8 years ago

    Because we're smart enough to know that they have the only long -term solution that actually works.

    Major

    Your rant is nothing more than an effort to deny the inherent advantages of using the economies of scale to optimize precious resources.In Truth you're supporting the anti -Christian policies of excessive waste

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  • 8 years ago

    1. Timbro.se is a right wing swedish organization whose mission is to :" originate, promote and disseminate ideas and issues supporting the principles of free markets, free enterprise, individual liberty and a free society." It is not a statistic department! And your link does not work.

    2. If you want to use statistics, then use neutral acknowledged sources. You did not do that.

    3. "Know thine enemy". My enemy is ignorance, your enemy must be true knowledge.

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  • 8 years ago

    In their fanatic quest to "end suffering", and by that, I mean end their own internal suffering (over the fact that other are "suffering" and thereby making them feel bad themselves), they seek to "provide" goods and services that they have but they feel others should have as well, many of these things they wish to provide being "comforts" and not "life-sustaining".

    In order to provide the goods/services that liberals think you should have (as opposed to the things YOU, the induvidual think you should have) they inlist government to force people into complience with their, the liberal's, desires so that they, the liberal, can feel good about their own situation (because they helped someone else, obsolving them of their guilt over being better off). It is the same as when you "donate money" by buying something you where already going to buy.

    Goverment soon discovers that people always want more. With liberals providing more than life-sustaining goods/services, the "poor, etc." see an opportunity to exploit the generocity of the liberal and take more than "their fair share", driving up costs. The only way for the government to combat these costs increases is to tax people more.

    This causes more people to become "poor, etc." and then to fall into the trap of government-provided services, thereby driving up the costs again.

    tl;dr: in order to feel good about themselves, liberals have to make everyone (but themselves) poor.

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  • Andy
    Lv 7
    8 years ago

    I'm not a fan of full on socialism but what's wrong with small cars and efficient living spaces?

    Also...their standard of living is actually higher than our's.

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  • Anonymous
    8 years ago

    They want to make America as same as Europe.

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  • Char
    Lv 6
    8 years ago

    Because the people in this country are entitled to affordable health care plans.

    Source(s): Senior citizen
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  • 8 years ago

    Simple! They're idiots!

    Source(s): Not a Republican or a Democrat, just a realist.
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