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Anonymous asked in Society & CultureReligion & Spirituality · 8 years ago

You do know that Jesus Christ Himself founded the catholic church, right?

So what's with all the anti-catholic hate on here from Protestants/Baptists, etc.?

Like you "know" what they don't?

Is that why its called "faith" because you think you "know" something they don't?

(sarcasm implied)

-not religious

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  • Anonymous
    8 years ago
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    I guess you do not know about the wars between Catholics and protestants and bloody Mary ?

    You do better to educate them both on the common contradictions in their professed faith/history which 98% do not have a clue as to all of what is written in the bible let alone all the history that surrounds it...

    Jesus is based on myth as are all religions. The following are excerpts from the bible that point out the not so nice things the Jesus myth character said and then some and links that further explain my point that all religions are based on myth, misogyny and violence...

    The word god comes from the German word Godan/Gotten which comes from the Norse male myth deity Wotan/Odin.

    Matthew 10:34. "Do not think that I came to bring peace on earth. I did not come to bring peace but a sword.

    "And that servant [slave], which knew his lord's will, and prepared not himself, neither did according to his will, shall be beaten with many stripes." (Luke 12:47) He never denounced servitude, incorporating the master-slave relationship into many of his parables.

    By the way the word Lord comes from Europe. A Lord was a land owner. You could not leave the Lord (land owner) without his permission. If you did you would be captured/ punished or killed by the Lord…….Look up the futile system in Europe. Why do you think our relatives left Europe? It is pure ignorance to say Jesus is Lord………

    "If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple." (Luke 14:26)

    The burning of unbelievers during the Inquisition was based on the words of Jesus: "If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned." (John 15:6)

    When one of his disciples requested time off for his father's funeral, Jesus rebuked him: "Let the dead bury their dead." (Matthew 8:22)

    "Behold, here is my daughter a maiden, and his concubine; them I will bring out now, and humble ye them, and do with them what seemeth good unto you: but unto this man do not so vile a thing. But the men would not hearken to him: so the man took his concubine, and brought her forth unto them; and they knew her, and abused her all the night until the morning: and when the day began to spring, they let her go." (Judges 19:24-25)

    "Let the women learn in silence with all subjection. But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence. For Adam was first formed, then Eve. And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression." (I Timothy 2:11-14

    Subjection: Bring, make under domination or control, esp. by conquest.

    “if that slave says to himself, ‘My master is delayed in coming,’ and if he begins to beat the other slaves, men and women, and to eat and drink and get drunk, the master of that slave will come on a day when he does not expect him and at an hour that he does not know, and will cut him in pieces, and put him with the unfaithful. That slave who knew what his master wanted, but did not prepare himself or do what was wanted, will receive a severe beating. But the one who did not know and did what deserved a beating will receive a light beating.” Luke 12:45-48.

    Luke19:27, ” But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me.”

    The most stringent controls on speech in the colonial period were controls that outlawed or otherwise censored speech that was considered blasphemous in a religious sense. A 1646 Massachusetts law, for example, punished persons who denied the immortality of the soul. In 1612, a Virginia governor declared the death penalty for a person that denied the Trinity under Virginia's Laws Divine, Moral and Martial, which also outlawed blasphemy, speaking badly of ministers and royalty, and "disgraceful word.

    "What profit has not that fable of Christ brought us!"

    --Pope Leo X

    (As attributed by John Bale, Bishop of Ossory, in The Pageant of Popes, p. 179, 1574)

    The Naked Truth http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-825144727...

    Origins of Christianity http://www.truthbeknown.com/origins.htm

    Origins of Islam http://www.truthbeknown.com/islam.htm

    The not so nice quotes of the Jewish book of the Talmud http://www.rense.com/general21/tal.htm

    The Evil Bible http://www.evilbible.com/

    The Dark Bible & Women’s Inferior Status http://nobeliefs.com/DarkBible/darkbible7.htm

    Islam of lies & Stupidity http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Pages/Quran-Hate...

    The ugly Islam Reality http://islamreality.wordpress.com/

    Islam admitting it’s evil Intention http://creepingsharia.wordpress.com/2012/03/17/mai...

    Jesus Never Existed http://www.jesusneverexisted.com/index.html

  • Walrus
    Lv 4
    8 years ago

    I'm pretty sure all of the anti-catholic comments you're getting only proves your point further.

    Strange how denying history and willful ignorance have become common themes among them.

    Jesus made Peter the first pope, and everything he and the apostles did that lead to the Catholic Church becoming "official" in the 300's is still practiced today. But hey, I highly doubt my little response on yahoo answers is enough to make a dent into the lack of knowledge and understanding these people have about the RCC.

  • No, Jesus didn't. Jesus wouldn't start a church that contradicts a lot of things from the Bible(treating Mary as a god, putting someone on a holy pedestal, the pope, having only certain saints when it clearly calls us all saints, having additional books to the Bible, etc.). Maybe Jesus started the whole Christian church which has ultimately turned into the modern Catholic church.

  • Rocky
    Lv 7
    8 years ago

    Moody Bleu, you are one of millions who have believed the lie of the Roman Universal Catholic Church. How could Jesus have started the Roman Universal Caholic Church when it was actually formed by Constantine the Great, Emperor of Rome in AD 313---don't believe me? Check the secular libraries of the world---not the Catholic libraries. It was formed to unite the townships of the Roman Empire which was beginning to crumble. Shortly after being founded by Constantine, he made it the state church of Rome with a mandate to make all Roman Citizens Catholic. In the next 1200 years into the 1500's AD she murdered over 50 million true Christian for heresy and forcing more millions to become Catholic at the threat of death. And you believe that is the way of Jesus--then you have never read his tale in the Holy Bible.

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  • 8 years ago

    Um, no Jesus (if he existed) did NOT found the Catholic church. Christianity didn't rear its ugly head until 100 years or so after Jesus's death. He may be the reason for the Catholic church, but certainly not the founder. Jesus had no intention of starting a religion.

  • Eire7
    Lv 7
    8 years ago

    Jesus Christ Established a Visible Church On Earth

    Every Christian believes that Jesus Christ established and sustains a community of faith, hope and love for all believers. This community we call His Church. The Church that Christ founded is the Catholic Church which has a formal earthly structure established by Christ and which continues under His authority and protection.

    In the Old Testament we see God's continual involvement in the lives of the Israelites through appointed prophets. God delivered, instructed and admonished the Israelites. He made His motions in a visible, specific and formal way. He always did so through human hands, mouths, feet, minds and wills. God established a law and a means for executing it.

    In concert with His redemptive act, Jesus did three things that established the framework of His Church. First, He chose humans to carry out His work. He appointed Peter to be the visible head of the Church. Jesus said to Peter, "You are Rock and on this rock I will build my Church." (Matthew 16: 18) Jesus said "build," as in to create a structure. Jesus built His structure on specifically chosen human beings Peter and the apostles.

    Second, Jesus gave Peter and the apostles the power and authority to carry out His work. "Whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven."(Matthew 16:19; 18:18) "Receive the Holy Spirit, whose sins you forgive, they are forgiven, whose sins you retain, they are retained."(John 20:23)

    Third, Jesus gave Peter and the apostles commands as to what that work should be. At the last supper, He commanded, "Do this in memory of Me." (Luke 22:19) He commanded them to "Make disciples of all nations" (Matthew 28:19), and to "Go into the whole world and proclaim the Gospel to every creature." (Mark 16:15)

    The early Church was structured in a hierarchical manner as it is today. We see in Acts, chapter 15 how the apostles and the elders came together under the leadership of St. Peter to decide the question of what was required of Gentiles. We also see how St. Peter was regarded as the head of the Church when St. Paul, "Went up to Jerusalem to confer with Kephas [Peter] and remained with him fifteen days." (Galatians 1:18) There is no Scriptural evidence of independent local churches.

    The Catholic Church is the only church that can claim to have been founded by Christ personally. Every other church traces its lineage back to a mere human person such as Martin Luther or John Wesley. The Catholic Church can trace its lineage back to Jesus Christ who appointed St. Peter as the first pope. This line of popes has continued unbroken for almost 2,000 years.

    God rules, instructs and sanctifies His people through His Church. Under her teaching office, the Catholic Church preserves the Word of God. She is the custodian, keeper, dispenser and interpreter of teachings of Christ. And she accomplishes this under the protection of the Holy Spirit.

  • 8 years ago

    It is entirely possible that Jesus was a real person.

    It is well-known that George Washington was a real man.

    It was widely believed, and taught ot children as FACT, that there was a conversation between George and his father, after George cut down the cherry tree.

    It was later determined that the conversation never happened.

    It was widely believed, and taught to children as fact, that Jesus made Peter the head of the group, and that in an unbroken succession, that leadership has been passed along through all the centuries.

    But maybe, like the cherry tree, it was a story made up, to teach something.

    Source(s): Parson Weems
  • Anonymous
    8 years ago

    And who said that Jesus founded the Catholic church?

    Oh, it was the Catholic church?

    Well, the church founded by Jesus wouldn't lie would they, so they MUST be the church founded by Jesus.

    Do you guys ever get tired of arguing about what games your imaginary friend wants to play?

  • 8 years ago

    Every Christian believes that Jesus Christ established and sustains a community of faith, hope and love for all believers. This community we call His Church. The Church that Christ founded is the Catholic Church which has a formal earthly structure established by Christ and which continues under His authority and protection.

    Jesus did three things that established the framework of His Church. First, He chose humans to carry out His work. He appointed Peter to be the visible head of the Church. Jesus said to Peter, "You are Rock and on this rock I will build my Church." (Matthew 16: 18) Jesus said "build," as in to create a structure. Jesus built His structure on specifically chosen human beings Peter and the apostles.

    Second, Jesus gave Peter and the apostles the power and authority to carry out His work. "Whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven."(Matthew 16:19; 18:18) "Receive the Holy Spirit, whose sins you forgive, they are forgiven, whose sins you retain, they are retained."(John 20:23)

    Third, Jesus gave Peter and the apostles commands as to what that work should be. At the last supper, He commanded, "Do this in memory of Me." (Luke 22:19) He commanded them to "Make disciples of all nations" (Matthew 28:19), and to "Go into the whole world and proclaim the Gospel to every creature." (Mark 16:15)

    The early Church was structured in a hierarchical manner as it is today. We see in Acts, chapter 15 how the apostles and the elders came together under the leadership of St. Peter to decide the question of what was required of Gentiles. We also see how St. Peter was regarded as the head of the Church when St. Paul, "Went up to Jerusalem to confer with Kephas [Peter] and remained with him fifteen days." (Galatians 1:18) There is no Scriptural evidence of independent local churches.

    The Catholic Church is the only church that can claim to have been founded by Christ personally. Every other church traces its lineage back to a mere human person such as Martin Luther or John Wesley. The Catholic Church can trace its lineage back to Jesus Christ who appointed St. Peter as the first pope. This line of popes has continued unbroken for almost 2,000 years.

    God rules, instructs and sanctifies His people through His Church. Under her teaching office, the Catholic Church preserves the Word of God. She is the custodian, keeper, dispenser and interpreter of teachings of Christ. And she accomplishes this under the protection of the Holy Spirit.

    ONE CHURCH - Is there to be only one Church or many? According to Scripture, Christ wanted us to be one (John 17:22-23). We are all as a Church to be of one mind and to think the same (Philippians 2:2; Romans 15:5). There is only to be one "faith" (Ephesians 4:3-6), not many. For the Church is Christ's Body and Christ only had one Body, not many. Also, since the Church is Christ's Bride (Ephesians 5:29), can Christ be married to more than one wife (essentially a spiritual form of the the sin of polygamy)? No, Christ can only have one wife (i.e., one Church, not many), not 38,000 as in the Protestant religions

    FOUR MARKS OF THE TRUE CHURCH

    If we wish to locate the Church founded by Jesus, we need to locate the one that has the four chief marks or qualities of his Church. The Church we seek must be one, holy, catholic, and apostolic.

    The Church Is One (Rom. 12:5, 1 Cor. 10:17, 12:13, CCC 813–822)

    The Church Is Holy (Eph. 5:25–27, Rev. 19:7–8, CCC 823–829)

    The Church Is Catholic (Matt. 28:19–20, Rev. 5:9–10, CCC 830–856)

    The Church Is Apostolic (Eph. 2:19–20, CCC 857–865)

    His Church also teaches just one set of doctrines, which must be the same as those taught by the apostles (Jude 3). This is the unity of belief to which Scripture calls us (Phil. 1:27, 2:2).

    Early Christian writings prove the first Christians were thoroughly Catholic in belief and practice and looked to the successors of the apostles as their leaders. What these first Christians believed is still believed by the Catholic Church. No other Church can make that claim.

    Catholic Christian †

  • Anonymous
    8 years ago

    Study Martin Luther and his 95 Theses, which led to the Protestant Reformation which will give you a better understanding at how this all came to be. The idea was to REFORM the Catholic Church to what it was intended to be, not to leave it. The reason behind this is too complicated to try to explain to you in Yahoo Answers.

    And if you aren't religious, why do you bother to ask?

  • Anonymous
    8 years ago

    no he didn't.

    Bishops around the time of constantine did, and claimed Peter was a pope.

    presuming the bible was true, he would've founded Christianity, without a denominational label.

    But the whole "faith/works" debate is silly, and it all centers on a fundamental agreement on Jesus for salvation.

    You could say that Protestants cause more splits over their widely differing interpretations of "sola scriptura" and you could also make the case that catholicism is dogmatic and unbiblical in its "intercession of saints" and the like.

    Source(s): atheist
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