ARMY ROTC Questions PLEASE?
Hi i am a sophomore at a College Prep school. Currently i have a 3.675 GPA and a 30 ACT score. I have been looking recently at Colleges because my parents recently told me i need to. I have always been interested in helping people my whole life although previously with police work. But more recently i have been thinking about the Army.
So i want to ask you first what the ROTC application process entails?
As well i am wondering if trying to get into WEST POINT would be either a better choice for any reason over like Syracuse ROTC, Georgetown ROTC, Penn State ROTC, or any other ROTC/(non academy path?)
As well if you have anything else i should know both about the program that would be great.
Thank You for Reading this and answering.
- TomLv 78 years agoFavorite Answer
West Point is the best commissioning choice for an Army officer because the Army allots enough slots for each branch to West Point so that except for the bottom 20% of the class most branches are available. For instance for the Class of 2011, unless a Cadet was in the bottom 20% of the class, every Army Branch with the exception of Military Intelligence and Medical Service Corps was available. Those two were available to the top half of the West Point class. Branch selection for Rotc Cadets is a lot more competitive. Aviation is usually the most competitive branch for Rotc Cadets, available to around the top 20% of Cadets on the OML(National Order of Merit list) and then not available for Cadets ranking from the 80th to the 51st percentile and then available again from the 50th to around the 30th percentile. Each branch can only be filled to a certain extent with Cadets from the top half of the National OML. Infantry was almost as competitive as Aviation. A major issue is that raw GPA regardless of major and degree of grade inflation at the college is 40% of the National OML, so, it is a very uneven playing field. On average, private universities have a median 3.3 GPA while public universities have a median 3.0 Gpa. At West Point for the Class of 2011, Infantry was available down to the bottom ten percent of the class.
The Air Force Academy website offers outstanding advice to students prepping for a service academy, rotc scholarship or any highly selective university. Open all links to the left of the dialog box. Be sure to open the "Leadership Preparation" link and read it carefully."
Page 19 of Chapter 2 of the Naval Academy Catalog indicates classes for a high school student to take to make himself competitive for admission. The classes are arranged in a hierarchy:
Helpful to read the advice on prepping for college offered on Harvard's website:
The selection process is nearly identical at the Naval Academy, West Point, and the Air Force Academy, so, whatever is stated on one service academy website or in its catalog with regard to admissions, course selection etc generally holds for the others. If you read the following answer and open the links it should help to explain the selection process and the path to an appointment:
The application cycle for the service academies begins December 1 of junior year when the Air Force Academy begins accepting pre candidate questionnaires from juniors applying to attend the Air Force Academy Summer Seminar.
West Point SLS usually begins accepting pre candidate questionnaires in mid December; January 10 for 2012. The Naval Academy Summer Seminar begins accepting preliminary applications on February 1.
Uscga AIM also begins accepting applications in February. It is best to apply to all since they are similar and going to one indicates to the Admissions Boards at all that a Candidate is well aware of the regimented lifestyle of an academy Cadet/Midshipman. An applicant needs Psat, Sat or Act scores to be considered for the Summer Seminars. The Psat Math section tests Algebra 1 and Geometry and should be taken the first time the Fall after completing these classes. The Psat is only offered once each October. The Sat Math section tests Algebra 1 and 2 and Geometry and should be taken the first time the Spring of the year taking Algebra 2. The Act Math section tests these subjects and Trigonometry. An extracurricular reading program looking up unknown words in a dictionary helps with the Cr and Writing sections of the Sat:
Colonel Batchelder indicates the attributes SLS seeks in applicants:
All the summer programs seek pre-candidates with essentially the same attributes. Usna's is the largest accepting 2250, Usafa Summer Seminar accepts 1125 and West Point SLS 1,000.
- Anonymous8 years ago
ROTC is one of the ways you can become an officer in the Army. It is a 2 - 4 year program that you go through in college, in addition to the courses you take as part of your regular degree. You join the program voluntarily but eventually they will ask you to sign a contract which means you are committing to serve in the Army.
You are a cadet (basically, a potential officer in training). During the voluntary period, you attend classes do physical training (PT) and labs (field exercises) and basically observe. If you find that you like it, and if your Cadre feels that you have potential, they will recommend you contract.
Once you contract, the Army is expecting you as an officer so after you graduate college and depending on some selections you make (duty station preference, Airborne schooling, etc) you will serve anywhere from 3-4 years (if you took an ROTC scholarship it could be more). The Recruiting officer (ROO) for your nearest ROTC program can tell you more
Whether you go active duty or Guard or Reserve is not automatic. You will go to a Leadership Advanced Camp (LDAC) at Ft. Lewis, Washington during one of your summers (usually 3rd year ROTC). Active Duty, National Guard or Reserve selection is based on your GPA, PT Test scores, your Pre-Camp evaluation (an assessment you will receive) and performance at camp. If you have no intention of going active and want to stay guard or reserve, you can sign a GRFD statement (guaranteed reserve forces duty).
**New Note - The ROTC equivalent of "boot camp" is the Leader's Training Course (LTC). It is also during the summer at Fort Knox, KY. You may or may not go depending on how you join the program. For example, if you do all four years of ROTC ( MS I - IV) you are considered a "progression" cadet. Your first two years MS I and MS II are also the equivalent of "boot camp". You are not supposed to go to LTC if you have done MS I and MS II (even though I know of schools that still do this). LTC is for those cadets with 2 years of college who are only going to do 2 years of ROTC. LTC then counts for your MS I and MS II years.
The USMA is another option but that involves your state legislators. You must submit a packet and they must recommend you. And it is 4 years of strict discipline. Generally, West Point is viewed as the more prestigious way to become an officer. But your performance while in the service is what counts. I have seen good officers from all sources of commissioning (ROTC, OCS, USMA) as well as bad examples from all three.
Good luck with whatever you decide.