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Is this the correct explanation of the 144,000 spirit anointed sons of God?

Could this not be a reference to fleshly Israel? Revelation 7:4-8 diverges from the usual tribal listing. (Numbers 1:17, 47) Obviously,the listing here is not for the purpose of identifying fleshly Jews by their tribes but to show a similar organizational structure for 'spiritual Israel' (Israel of God) . There are 144,000 members of this new nation—12,000 from each of 12 tribes. No tribe in this 'Israel of God' is exclusively royal or priestly. The whole nation is to rule as kings, and the whole nation is to serve as priests.—Galatians 6:16; Revelation 20:4, 6.

Although the natural Jews and Jewish proselytes were given the first opportunity to be chosen for spiritual Israel, only a minority of that nation responded. God therefore extended the invitation to the Gentiles. (John 1:10-13; Acts 2:4, 7-11; Romans 11:7) As in the case of the Ephesians, who previously had been “alienated from the state of Israel,” now non-Jews could be sealed with God’s spirit and become part of the congregation of anointed Christians. (Ephesians 2:11-13; 3:5, 6; Acts 15:14) So the 24 elders could sing “With your blood you bought persons for God out of every tribe and tongue and people and nation, and you made them to be a kingdom and priests to our God, and they are to rule as kings over the earth.”—Revelation 5:9, 10.

The Christian congregation is “a chosen race, a royal priesthood, a holy nation.” (1 Peter 2:9) Replacing natural Israel as God’s nation, it becomes a new Israel that is “really ‘Israel.’” (Romans 9:6-8; Matthew 21:43) For this reason, it was quite proper for Jesus’ half brother James to address his pastoral letter “to the twelve tribes that are scattered about,” that is, to the worldwide congregation of anointed Christians that in time would number 144,000.—James 1:1.

The Israel of God Today

Interestingly, “We have every reason to believe that the definite, fixed number of the elect [chosen anointed ones] is several times stated in Revelation (7:4; 14:1); namely, 144,000 ‘redeemed from amongst men.’”

One may ask, does not natural Israel today merit some special favor standing before God. “The world is witness to the fact that Israel’s punishment under the dominion of the Gentiles has been continuous since B.C. [607], that it still continues, and that there is no reason to expect their national re-organization sooner than A.D. 1914, the limit of their ‘seven times’—2520 years.” It seemed that the Jews would then experience a national restoration, and this prospect apparently brightened in 1917, when the Balfour Declaration pledged British support for making Palestine a national home for the Jews.

Following the first world war, Palestine became a mandated territory under Great Britain, and the way opened for many Jews to return to that land. In 1948 the political State of Israel was brought forth. Did this not indicate that the Jews were in line for divine blessings? For many years, Jehovah’s Witnesses believed that this was so. Thus, in 1925 they published a 128-page book, Comfort for the Jews. In 1929 they released an attractive 360-page volume, Life, designed to appeal to the Jews and dealing also with the Bible book of Job. Great efforts were made, especially in New York City, to reach the Jews with this Messianic message. Happily, a few individuals responded, but the Jews by and large, like their forefathers of the first century, rejected the evidence of Messiah’s presence.

17 It was obvious that Jewry, as a people and as a nation, was not the Israel described in Revelation 7:4-8 or other Bible prophecies related to the Lord’s day. Following tradition, the Jews continued to avoid using the divine name. (Matthew 15:1-3, 7-9) In discussing Jeremiah 31:31-34, the book Jehovah, published by Jehovah’s Witnesses in 1934, stated conclusively: “The new covenant has nothing to do with the natural descendants of Israel and with mankind in general, but . . . is limited to 'spiritual Israel'.” The majority of mankind have the earthly hope if they would only recognize Psalms 37th chapter

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  • 9 years ago
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    At Genesis 49: 3-27 we see the NAMING of the TWELVE tribes of the NATION of Israel.

    They are; Reuben, Simeon, Levi, Judah, Zebulan, Issachar, Dan, Gad,Asher, Naphtali, Joseph

    and Benjamin.

    When we look at the account at Revelation 7: 5 - 8, we NOTE a difference, Manasseh has replaced

    Dan. Manasseh was the firstborn of Joseph [Genesis 41: 50, 51, 52.].

    Covenants

    The covenant that pertains to LITERAL or physical Israel puts them in a special relationship with

    God Almighty, Exodus 19:6 reads: And you yourselves will become to me a KINGDOM of

    PRIESTS and a holy NATION. These are the words that you are to say to the sons of Israel."

    This situation has CHANGED however. In Jeremiah 31: 31-34, a NEW covenant is mentioned.

    Compare Hebrews 8: 6 - 13.

    More significantly however, when Jesus Christ, the Messiah or anointed One was rejected by

    the Jews, the NEW covenant fell on a NEW NATION, SPIRITUAL Israel. According to the Holy

    Scriptures, the Bible, we read at Matthew 21: 43: This is why I say to you, The Kingdom of God

    will be TAKEN from you and be GIVEN to a NATION producing its FRUITS; and at Matthew

    23: 38 we read: Look! Your house is abandoned to you. Also, at Acts 15: 14 - 20: Symeon has

    related thoroughly how God for the FIRST time turned his attention to the NATIONS to take out of THEM a PEOPLE for his NAME. And with this the words of PROPHETS agree, just as it is WRITTEN, 'After these things I shall RETURN and rebuild the booth of David that is fallen down;

    and I shall REBUILD its ruins and erect it again, in order that those who REMAIN of the men may

    EARNESTLY seek Jehovah, together with people of ALL the NATIONS, people who are

    CALLED by my NAME, says Jehovah, who is doing these things, known from of old.

    Please COMPARE Amos 9: 11, 12.

    Acts 10: 34, 35 reads: At this Peter opened his mouth and said: "For a certainty I perceive that God

    is NOT PARTIAL, but in EVERY NATION the man that fears him and works

    RIGHTEOUSNESS is ACCEPTABLE to him. Please READ the FULL account.

    Who Really is a “Jew” in a spiritual sense?

    Romans 2:28-29

    New King James Version (NKJV)

    28 For he is not a Jew who is one outwardly, nor is circumcision that which is outward in the flesh; 29 but he is a Jew who is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the Spirit, not in the letter; whose praise is not from men but from God.

    Some who claim to be “Jews” are not.

    Revelation 3:9

    Young's Literal Translation (YLT)

    9lo, I make of the synagogue of the Adversary those saying themselves to be Jews, and are not, but do lie; lo, I will make them that they may come and bow before thy feet, and may know that I loved thee.

    Spiritual “Jews” have crowns and will rule with Christ for 1000 years.

    Revelation 3:12; Revelation 20:6.

  • ?
    Lv 4
    5 years ago

    John 14:16 Ephesians 1:13 - 14

  • 9 years ago

    As teller of truths says you have an accurate understanding so the correct answer is "YES"! I would like to bring a few more scriptures in to this discussion, (Revelation 6:11) And a white robe was given to each of them; and they were told to rest a little while longer, until the number was filled also of their fellow slaves and their brothers who were about to be killed as they also had been.

    “A white robe was given to each of them; and they were told to rest a little while longer, until the number was filled also of their fellow slaves and their brothers who were about to be killed as they also had been.”—Revelation 6:10, 11.

    Were these white robes handed out to pools of blood lying at the base of an altar? Of course not! The robes were given to the individuals whose blood was shed, as it were, on the altar. They sacrificed their lives in Jesus’ name.

    This scripture talks about a sealing(Ephesians 4:30) Also, do not be grieving God’s holy spirit, with which YOU have been sealed for a day of releasing by ransom.

    This sealing is done by God's Holy Spirit and as you mentioned at Revelation 7:1-3 show that the winds of destruction(Armageddon) will be held off until the number is filled, that number is 144,000. The clergy hides this from their congregations because they number more than 144,000, if the truth be known the clergy think themselves of this group apart from their congregation but will never admit to it because it exposes their hell fire doctrine(Rev 20:14)

    (Romans 2:29) But he is a Jew who is one on the inside, and [his] circumcision is that of the heart by spirit, and not by a written code. The praise of that one comes, not from men, but from God.

    The Gentiles were not circumcised yet we see that they were sealed by Holy Spirit.

    At Revelation 7:9,14) 9 After these things I saw, and, look! a great crowd, which no man was able to number, out of all nations and tribes and peoples and tongues, standing before the throne and before the Lamb, dressed in white robes; and there were palm branches in their hands

    14 So right away I said to him: “My lord, you are the one that knows.” And he said to me: “These are the ones that come out of the great tribulation, and they have washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb. (Revelation 6:11).

    Christendom's clergy are explained at (2 Timothy 4:3, 4) For there will be a period of time when they will not put up with the healthful teaching, but, in accord with their own desires, they will accumulate teachers for themselves to have their ears tickled; 4 and they will turn their ears away from the truth, whereas they will be turned aside to false stories.

    They teach paganism, idol worship and the traditions of men because they wish to tickle the ears as it makes them rich!!

  • Anonymous
    6 years ago

    Harpazo = Rapture

    END-TIME BIBLE PROPHECY

    The Messiah Lord Jesus said BIRTH PANGS would signal the time of the end (Matthew 24:8). There are NINE birth pangs, they are all PRE-TRIBULATIONAL and the 1st three already occurred.

    The first birth pang was worldwide conflict coupled with famines and earthquakes (Matthew 24:7-8). Worldwide conflict was fulfilled in 1914-1918, major famines happened in 1918-1921 and most of the world’s major earthquakes began to occur since 1900.

    The second birth pang was the restoration of a Jewish State (Ezekiel 20:33-38; Ezekiel 22:17-22; Ezekiel 36:22-24; Zephaniah 2:1-2). This was fulfilled in 1948.

    The third birth pang was Jewish control of the Old City of Jerusalem (Revelation 11:1-2). For the third Jewish Temple (Tribulation Temple) to be rebuilt, Jerusalem needs to be under Jewish control and this was accomplished in the Six Day War in 1967.

    The fourth birth pang will be the Ezekiel 38 war. Russia, allied states of Iran, Ethiopia, Somalia, Germany and Armenia will invade Israel. God will miraculously destroy the invading army by earthquake, civil war among the invading soldiers, pestilence, blood, flood, hailstones, fire and brimstone. This will bring a revival in Israel where many Jews will turn to the Lord, and Israel will spend 7 years and 7 months burying the bodies and burning for fuel the military equipment left behind (Ezekiel 39:9-16).

    The 5th birth pang will be the development of a one world government (Daniel 7:23-24).

    The 6th birth pang will be the splitting of the one world government into 10 kingdoms and this Ten Kingdom Stage will continue until mid-Tribulation (Daniel 7:24).

    The 7th birth pang will be the revelation of the Antichrist (II Thessalonians 2:1-3; Daniel 7:24).

    The 8th birth pang will be a period of peace and false security that will be shattered by the Tribulation (1 Thessalonians 5:1-3).

    The 9th and final birth pang before the Tribulation is the signing of the 7-year covenant between Israel and the Antichrist. THIS EVENT IS WHAT BEGINS THE (7-year) TRIBULATION - NOT THE RAPTURE!

    The Rapture of the Church (1 Thessalonians 4:16-18) is also a pre-tribulational event (Luke 21:34-37; 1 Thessalonians 1:9-10; 1 Thessalonians 5:1-10; Revelation 3:10; Revelation 19:6-8). The fact that the Church is not mentioned in any of the Tribulation Scriptures proves the Rapture is pre-tribulational. All raptured Christians will receive glorified bodies (Romans 8:22-23; 1 Corinthians 15:50-54)) and it can happen at any second.

    THE FIRST HALF OF THE TRIBULATION (SUPPORTING VERSES IN REVELATION 6-9 AND 17)

    The Ministry of 144,000 sealed Jewish believers will bring many throughout the world to accept Christ.

    There will be a powerful Ministry of Two Witnesses who will also be anointed Jewish believers.

    A one world religious system (Babylon the Harlot) will rule. Under this one world religious system, many who are saved during the Tribulation will suffer persecution and death.

    The Political system of the 10 kings of the one world government will continue.

    During the first half of the Tribulation there will also be war, worldwide famine, death (1/4 of the world’s population will die), a huge earthquake, a blackout and a meteor shower. 1/3 of earth’s dry surface will be destroyed, 1/3 sea life and salt water will be destroyed, a fallen angel called Wormwood will make 1/3 of earth’s fresh water bitter, 1/3 of earth’s natural light sources will be destroyed, there will be another blackout and demons in the form of “locust-scorpions” will come up out of the abyss led by Abaddon their king and they will inflict harm and pain for five months upon those who are not sealed by God (unbelievers). Another demonic invasion will occur and the demons involved will be led by four fallen angels who will be released from the Euphrates River and this army will kill 1/3 of the earth’s population.

    MID-TRIBULATION (SUPPORTING VERSES IN REVELATION 10-14 AND 17)

    The Antichrist will war against the 10 kings, and during the war the Antichrist will be killed.

    Satan will be cast out of the atmospheric heavens onto earth and will resurrect the Antichrist.

    The Antichrist will kill 3 kings (the kings of Syria, Egypt and Mesopotamia) and the 7 other kings will submit to him.

    The Antichrist will kill the Two Witnesses in Jerusalem and the wicked people will celebrate this event. Three and a half days afterwards, God will resurrect the Two Witnesses and take them up to Heaven and the people who celebrated will become terrified. The city of Jerusalem where the murder of the Two Witnesses occurred will then suffer an earthquake which will kill 7,000 people.

    The False Prophet will receive from Satan the power to perform great miracles and will deceive many. The False Prophet will command all people to worship the Antichrist and have persons create an image to the Antichrist. The False Prophet will use his satanic powers to give it life and the ability to speak. The False Prophet will cause those who refuse to worship the Antichrist and the image to be killed.

    The False Prophet will issue his own counterfeit seal known as the Mark of the Beast and it will be placed on all those who surrender to the Antichrist’s authority and accept him as god. Those who refuse to take this mark will not be able to buy or sell. Those who take this mark will spend eternity in the Lake of Fire.

    The Antichrist will break the seven-year covenant he made with Israel, cause the sacrifices to stop, sit in the Jewish Temple, declare to the world that he is really God and set up an idol called the Abomination of Desolation in the Temple (Daniel 9:27; Daniel 12:11; Matthew 24:15-16; 11Thessalonians 2:3-4; Revelation 13:11-15).

    Through the Antichrist and the False Prophet, Satan will attempt to destroy the Jews once and for all but he will fail because 1/3 of the Jews will succeed in fleeing into the wilderness. These Jews who escape will accept the Lord Jesus as their Saviour during the Tribulation (Zechariah 13:7-9) and while they are in hiding, God will miraculously provide for them (Zechariah 13:8-9; Isaiah 41:17-20). Divine intervention will also destroy the pursuing army.

    THE SECOND HALF OF THE TRIBULATION (SUPPORTING VERSES FOUND IN REVELATION 15, 16, 18, 19, 20)

    In the second half of the Tribulation, those with the Mark of the Beast will suffer skin sores, the remainder of sea water and fresh water will be destroyed, the sun will cause terrible burns and the wicked will blaspheme God. There will be yet another blackout and persons will suffer gnawing pains.

    Babylon will be the center of world economy and political system but Babylon will be swiftly destroyed by fire and become uninhabitable for man.

    The Antichrist will locate the Jews who sought refuge in the wilderness and surround them with his armies to wipe them out. The Lord Jesus will then descend from Heaven with His angels and Saints. He will come with great glory riding upon a horse and will destroy the Antichrist, the False Prophet and all of their armies. After this, a loud voice will cry out “It is done!” followed by the greatest earthquake in the earth’s history and hail weighing 120 pounds will fall.

    At the end of the Tribulation, there will be another blackout, the stars will fall from the sky and the heavenly bodies will be shaken (Matthew 24:29), the Antichrist and the False Prophet will be thrown into the eternal Lake of Fire and Satan will be cast into the Abyss and bound for 1,000 years.

    THE MILLENNIUM

    The Lord Jesus will reign over the entire earth during the Millennium. The Jewish and Gentile believers who survive the Tribulation will go on to populate the Millennium. Believers who died before and during the Tribulation and believers who were raptured will be present on earth during the Millennium and because they will have glorified bodies they will not reproduce. All believers will be given special tasks by the Lord Jesus (Revelation 20:4-6). There will be no wars (Isaiah 2:2-4), animals will return to the Edenic state and become vegetarians (Isaiah 11:6-9), people will not labour in vain but eat what they plant and inhabit what they build, there will be renovations in the heavens and earth and there will be righteous and unrighteous children born during the Millennium (Isaiah 65:17-25).

    At the end of the Millennium, Satan will be loosed from the Abyss and will deceive and gather the unrighteous for a war against the righteous. This will be his final attempt to destroy the righteous and when the unrighteous of the Millennium surround the good people, God will send fire down from Heaven which will suddenly and massively annihilate all of the wicked people. Satan will then be cast into the Lake of Fire where he will remain in torment for eternity (Revelation 20:7-10).

    THE GREAT WHITE THRONE JUDGMENT

    The Great White Throne Judgment will be the next main event. The old heavens and earth will be done away with and all will stand before God’s throne to be judged (Revelation 20:11-12). Those whose names are not found written in the Book of Life will be cast into the Lake of Fire which will be their final and eternal abode (Revelation 20:14-15).

    THE ETERNAL ORDER (REVELATION 21 AND 22)

    Those whose names are found in the Book of Life will enjoy paradise with God forever. The heavens and earth will be made new and the New Jerusalem will come down upon the earth making the earth like Heaven. All curses from the fall will be removed and the earth will be inhabited by the Triune God (The Father, Son and Holy Spirit), all angels and all of the righteous. The seas, moon, night and sun will be done away with and the glory of God will illuminate the earth. The River of Life will flow from God’s throne, the Tree of Life will bear health-giving fruits and leaves and the name of Jesus will be on the foreheads of all of the righteous.

    God’s Plan of Salvation for Us

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZkDk1GZ7do

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  • 9 years ago

    You have to keep in mind that there is metaphors, and symbolism going on here. You have to think Hebrew, so many go off on an explanation that is not grounded in Hebrew. Twelve represents the Priesthood (12 Apostles), biblical Israel squared the number to amplify the meaning. So 12x12 equals 144000. This suggests a fullness of the Priesthood authority. John gave an image superlative quantity when he added the 1000. In Hebrew this means completeness. See how he put so much meat on the number. This also illustrates the strength and breath of the Priesthood. You could see how this is not a literal number but a knowledge and power in and of the Priesthood.

  • Anonymous
    9 years ago

    No.

  • Suzy
    Lv 7
    9 years ago

    It being a sealed #, that would only mean, not one more, not one less. Only 144,000 will help Christ rule in Heaven. This is over mankind on earth.

  • Anonymous
    9 years ago

    WoW!

    What a lot of words!!

    You probably asked about 20 questions,

    And I thought I rambled on, Whew!

    Answer: I think you got it, close enough...

    I think... me brain is befuddled.

  • 9 years ago

    You hit it on the head so i wont answer it. People cant comprehend a spiritual nation.

  • Anonymous
    9 years ago

    suicide, blasphemy, worship of antichrist (very speedy-white-superman-gay-red eyed-gloved jew mason), receiving mark of the beast (rfid chip, small grey world passport, electronic tattoo, and 666 tattoo by lasers), and going into ufo ship (aliens=ghosts=demons) lead to hell.

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