Anonymous
Anonymous asked in Politics & GovernmentLaw & Ethics · 8 years ago

Why are Jehovah's Witnesses so engaged in a "Campaign" against "ex-members"?

It is interesting that this large corporate business machine, is so bothered by the sting of truth coming from the resisters to their organization, that this group has resorted to the depiction of complete annihilation of "apostate male members" of the household, as depicted in Jehu. The word "apostate" added by the fearful governing body.

Their Watchtower Nov. 2011 is a fine example of the deep fear, and control the WTBTS is willing to insert into the minds of it's rank and file members.

The ex-members of this group see through the subterfuge, and we see the intent...sunshine, it ain't gonna work.

The WTBTS is in fear of losing members, money, and face.

They have, and will lose much more of the same, for their criminal deeds, and lawless works against their fellow man.

This is why they are on a campaign to kill.

What do you say?

http://wn.com/Jehovah's_Witnesses_Nov_15_2011_Watc...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9A9dLk-DpI

Youtube thumbnail

&feature=related

They are in fear of the truth we speak.

WE WILL NEVER BE SILENCED.

Our strength is by Holy Spirit. we do not have millions of dollars, or a corporation, or hatred, but we do have truth, and Christ.

Update:

By this veiled attempt on the part of the Watchtower sect to frighten the "ex-members" into silence, as they tried to do when we were subserviant members, they forget one thing;

We are not in fear of those who can kill the body, but We are in fear of God and His Christ, Jesus.

And we are now in submission to the loving kindness of our King, Jesus. We are not doing the threatening here....they are.....exposed by their works.

We were taught by them, how to "sell sell sell", and how to be fearless of man...now they are the ones in fear of the truth issuing from Jesus' mouth, through us, the discards of the watchtower society.

We will never stop our preaching work, exposing the satan in their midst, as we are not in fear of men as they are. .

Update 2:

Katy, have strength and courage...your years were not lost....learn the enemy, and expose him. It was 40 years for me, and 20 for my wife. Have courage sister. we are the refuse of the JW world, but we are also the children of God now...let them insult us, and let them cause us harm. our protector The KING, Jesus Christ will send His angel Michael to stand up for His people...remember that.

Update 3:

No the witnesses will not "kill us" by a frontal attack, but I have already felt the sting of their retribution, from their damaging my business, and my reputation on a local level. The slander against me personally here at Yahoo recently, also caused issues with my family.

They will hit us in our wallets, and claim they are "Doing God a service".

Religious attacks, when orchestrated, can have a devastating affect if the perpertrators are "organized".

This latest watchtower "inside issue" is meant to stir-up the ire of the members, and allow them to vent in whatever way they feel is right.

Did you notice, Jesus love of neighbor, and of His enemies was again ignored, for an "old Testament" "slaughter".....This is what I was expecting....Go away Two-G.

Update 4:

No the witnesses will not "kill us" by a frontal attack, but I have already felt the sting of their retribution, from their damaging my business, and my reputation on a local level. The slander against me personally here at Yahoo recently, also caused issues with my family.

They will hit us in our wallets, and claim they are "Doing God a service".

Religious attacks, when orchestrated, can have a devastating affect if the perpertrators are "organized".

This latest watchtower "inside issue" is meant to stir-up the ire of the members, and allow them to vent in whatever way they feel is right.

Did you notice, Jesus love of neighbor, and of His enemies was again ignored, for an "old Testament" "slaughter".....This is what I was expecting....Go away Two-G.

Update 5:

O.K. Matther 4-10, come back, and explain your "interpretation" of the article, and it's intended purpose.

Let's hear what you have to say. all of you.

Update 6:

Your "scholar" is reading the word "apostate" where it does not appear in the scriptures. You have placed disfellowshipped ones, or disassociated ones whom YOU call Apostates, as modern day "worshipers of Satan"...this is how you show your love to those that leave your congregations.

By linking the word "apostate" you are trying to associate disfellowshipped ones in the same "light" as the worshipers of Bael...very clever way to cause hatred against us Conscientious Objectors of the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society...but not clever enough to escape detection.

11 Answers

Relevance
  • 8 years ago
    Favorite Answer

    <3

    Thank you for your support.

    I needed to be disfellowshipped after deliberately leaving the organization. It was a sudden action after which I became gravely ill (psychological affect and immune system shutting down). It was 10 years B4 my conscience would let me approach god in prayer, even then begging to know it was okay to speak to him.

    Can you believe it?! No wonder I nearly died, I gave them my life.

    Hey, the sun shines here on the outside, WHOA!

    ;-)

    (hope your post lasts!)

    Source(s): Disfellowshipped in '79, I think it was. Developed ovarian cancer about a decade later. I researched & discovered that when the 2 major causes of cancer (heredity, environment) are discredited, we need to look at the immune system. I stumbled upon this material http://www.amazon.com/Getting-Well-Again-Bestselli... By not addressing a series of major life stresses (for me: disfellowship, shun, relocating, afraid to believe in anything, new life) one may cause the inhibition of ones own immune system. This was my life saver. Later I took therapy so I could learn to express myself honestly & not submerge every opposing feeling/thought I had in deference to others.
    • Login to reply the answers
  • 8 years ago

    Avoid the Apostate, shun the apostate, now we have "Kill the Apostate" not unlike the Islamic religion, but just as the Islamic Religions. The very tight grip the Governing body keeps on these people should start to clue them in to what is happening here. You know this is one very good thing about the internet, of course the Watchtower hates, is the internet. The amount of information flowing about this cult is just overwhelming. The Watchtower has crossed the line this time, way to far. Some Jehovah Witness is going to carry this message to far and kill someone. While the Watchtower will deny "all things" they will not be able to deny all [other] things such as this. It's in black and white and is a "Hate Crime" in the United States. Much like the skin heads and other gang members, their true colors are coming out. All in the name of a false concept of religion. This is just another PRIME EXAMPLE that they DO NOT HAVE the HOLY SPIRIT in the organization but have the UNHOLY SPIRIT who would do anything to promote this type of thinking. These are the type of people that make him a god of this world. Danman has put it rather well, even very nicely, but hit the nail on the head, so to speak. You know they are going to make the claim, your taking it wrong, or your reading it out of context. People leave the Jehovah's Witnesses because they learn the truth about this organization and see the lies. The Watchtower does not teach you to Pray they teach you to prey...

    • Login to reply the answers
  • danman
    Lv 6
    8 years ago

    The application of the biblical account of Jehu and the apostates to the modern day Jehovah's Witness congregation is nothing more than fear mongering at its very best. At its worst it will actually encourage the 'elders' to exercise even more of the MURDEROUS power they hold over the congregations.

    To infer that the three elders deciding the fate of a so-called "apostate" must act more like those executioners for Jehovah, is like adding fuel to the fire already burning out of control. Watch how these men now show little if any 'compassion' or 'love' of what now the Watchtower Society governing body has clearly identified as enemy #1....all disfellowshipped ones.

    The pressure will be transferred to individual members of the congregation to become MORE ruthless when shunning. Now in the mind of every jw, they will see Jehu's sons slaughtering the apostates. Do the jw on YA even need such justification for their spite full attitudes already displayed?

    This organization is now teetering on the verge of being ruthlessly evil. To spew out such hatred and inferred violence to make a point is beyond christian and does in fact fit the pattern of Muslim religious zealots who do in fact carry out the slaughter of 'apostates'. Who really is following the words of the great teacher Jesus in Mathew 5 and the rest of his famous 'sermon on the mount'? Certainly not the Watchtower Society.

    • Login to reply the answers
  • Anonymous
    8 years ago

    There behaving no different than any other power hungry organization. They start out with representing what they believe is truth and trying to share there beliefs with all with a belief there doing it because of there love for Gods creation. Then at some point the greed for dominance takes over and then judgmentalism then finally the condemnation of those who drop out or disagree and then the next and final step which is deciding life and death based on how worthy they deem you to be or dangerous.

    • Login to reply the answers
  • How do you think about the answers? You can sign in to vote the answer.
  • 8 years ago

    If JW org is putting these wicked things out; placing this kind of horrid evil into the minds of their people, they are most satanic and devil worshippers. This is a total disgrace against the true god. If any JW can watch that wicked stuff and not see they are being led into something deep and dark and wicked which will land them in hell fire, (in spite of the lies of their wicked leaders, who deny hell). they will pay for this kind of horrid evil with their own lives and souls.

    This should not even be out to the public, as it can have a detrimental effect on young folks or any who are already bordering on becoming a murderer. this film is nothing but total satanic and filled with evil. If any JW can agree with this kind of evil, they are on the same boat as those Catholics who went along with, and still deny they many murderers and tortures their leaders did to any who disagreed with them.

    They are ALL FILLED WITH ALL SATANIC WICKEDNESS AND EVIL.

    Brother, do not fear their evil. Just believe Jesus and pray against this wicked org. You can , by faith, cast them into the sea of destruction.Jesus is going to place his sword into our hands and we will then bring against them the true Armageddon which they fear.

    It will be spiritual but will totally destroy those wicked ones off this entire earth. Then the peace which Jesus promised HIS TRUE PEOPLE will be here. THOSE WICKED ORGS ARE NOT PART OF IT.

    Source(s): KJV truth
    • Login to reply the answers
  • 8 years ago

    Yep, I could see some Jw go personal attack on you.

    I ask the question: Do catholics ran amok against some one who attacked the church. We do not.. We wish them good luck and to remember the church is still open should they come back. No shunning. You see there are 1.2 billion catholics.

    There are only 7million Jw. It is fatal should there be membership hemorrhaging [as one said]. The membership fees are the utmost importance in this org. Imagine some one leaving and that's less printing revenue... that's the issue.

    • Login to reply the answers
  • 8 years ago

    As I read that vile article I could only think of the verse where we are warned to EXPECT this...

    John 16:2 "They shall put you out of the synagogues: yea, the time cometh, that whosoever killeth you will think that he doeth God service."

    Surely, "sharia law" will come to pass around the world for it is fulfillment of prophecy. Just as no one around the world would have thought the slaughter of WWII would occur and just as those who lived only fifty years ago could not even conceive of the hedonistic and evil society we now live in... we have the same blindness that they did.

    Today we MUST be prepared for those things that are written in the scriptures. We must be prepared and not as if some strange thing has occurred.

    1Peter 4:12 "Beloved, think it not strange concerning the fiery trial which is to try you, as though some strange thing happened unto you:"

    • Login to reply the answers
  • 8 years ago

    They can print practically anything in those magazines and the Jw followers will believe it. It is scary when you think about it because with that sort of power over a people, anything is possible, even terrorism.

    • Login to reply the answers
  • Anonymous
    8 years ago

    JWs-'Slaughtering' the apostates??!!!! Wow apostasy is grounds for the death penalty in the muslim world???!!!! The JWs Governing Body has become, in my eyes as well as the disfellowshipped, wolves in sheeps clothing.

    Whatever happened to 'LOVE thy neighbor as thyself?' Did the JWs change that passage as well?

    • Login to reply the answers
  • 8 years ago

    The Governing Body is desperately trying to stem the hemorrhage of people leaving their organisation. This campaign is designed to keep control of the membership.

    15 November 2011 Watchtower article entitled 'Jehu Champions Pure Worship' pages 3-5: Page 4 says that "Jehovah used his servants to carry out his judgments" in those days - the days of Jehu. It goes on to say that "TODAY, no servant of Jehovah uses physical force against opponents of pure worship." (Capital letters added for emphasis)

    I am curious to know which scholar is supposed to have said (regarding 2 Kings 10:18-19) that the expression "a great sacrifice" for Baal... "generally means 'sacrifice,' it is also used of the 'slaughter' of apostates." This is a partial quotation and no reference is given as to its source. However, in order to understand what Jehovah's Witnesses mean by "apostates" you need to download the 15 July 2011 Watchtower and go to the article 'Will You Heed Jehovah's Clear Warnings? Do Not Follow False Teachers" on pages 15 and 16 Go to the link given above and select 15 July 2011 Watchtower Study Edition.

    They consider any person who has left their organisation and who speaks out against it as an apostate. They say (paragraph 6) that "apostates are "mentally diseased," and they seek to infect others with their disloyal teachings." In paragraph 7 they are told not to receive those persons into their homes or to greet them, not to read their literature, examine their Web sites or add comments to their blogs.

    Now go to page 5 in the 15 November 2011 Watchtower where it says "But to rid the congregation of potentially corrupting influences, Christian elders may have to act with courage similar to that of Jehu." Obviously, they are not advocating the literal "slaughter of apostates" but they take the message of 1 Corinthians 5:9-13 as the basis for not associating with those persons. "All members of the congregation need to be determined to avoid the company of disfellowshipped individuals."

    This is not so much a coded message as a clear instruction regarding internal disciplinary actions - nobody can associate with anyone who has been disfellowshipped (even if that person is their husband, wife or child), with a person who is deemed to be a potential corrupting influence or with an "apostate" - who are branded as being "mentally diseased."

    If a Jehovah's Witness does not accept this instruction, they will put themselves at risk of being considered disloyal and may well find themselves on the receiving end of shunning tactics.

    Although I deplore such control techniques, it has to be said that if you want to be a Jehovah's Witness then you have to abide by their rules. Otherwise, get out. But any person who does try to get out, and who speaks out against the organisation, will be branded as "an apostate" and, like anyone who is disfellowshipped, will be cut off from every member of their family and every person they used to call their "brother and sister." It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the Elders.

    P.S. With regard to the law, it is a criminal offence to publish articles or messages that single out individuals or a group of people saying hateful things about them or with the intention of getting others to hate them.

    With regard to ethics, it is unethical to brand other people as a target simply because they disagree with you.

    With regard to God's law, Christians are to love their enemies and pray for them. No Christian has the right to judge others or to single them out for vitriolic attacks, let alone suggest it's okay to hate them because they disagree with the party line. Jehovah's Witnesses are giving Christians a bad name and they should be thoroughly ashamed of themselves.

    • Login to reply the answers
Still have questions? Get your answers by asking now.