I will get so much hate but, I am not sympathetic toward vegans/vegetarians at all. Humans are omnivores. If we as a species had not eaten meat we would not have evolved to be the animals we are today. IMO, regardless of the fact that we can make the "choice" to eat or not to eat meat it's like putting your cats and dogs on crap food they weren't meant to eat like Meow Mix and Friskies and other BS. They can't make that choice. I know this is in the horse section but it's relevant in my opinion. People that care about -- and KNOW about -- their animals aren't feeding them nonsense because they know they're predators and require a special diet. I don't feed my cats and dogs high grain food, they get grain-free because their bodies are just not designed to handle anything other than meat. (What about vegans and veggies that own cats and dogs? Do they get the diet they require or do they get **** food that ruins their livers and kidneys and slowly kills them?)
While we can substitute vitamins, minerals, and amino acids for ourselves we wouldn't do that for our animals because it isn't natural. So what makes it natural to do so for us if we evolved as omnivores...?
It's not the fact that animals are dying that people become vegans and whatnot, it's that animals in the food industry are treated inhumanely and butchered ruthlessly. Or, so, that was meant to be the foundation for the movement, anyway. I wonder how many "vegans" still live by those morals or even know that's why it began? Because "o no i cant eat the cute wittle cow!!!!" makes so much sense.
I'll have a little respect for folks that are pretty much boycotting the meat industry for the reasons of animal cruelty but seriously, there is only so much reasoning behind it. Obviously just not eating meat has absolutely no effect on what happens to those animals, just saying, "I'm not going to eat meat ever," does not save the animal's lives.
It's utterly pointless IMO unless you're actually going to DO something other than turning your nose up at a perfectly good steak.
@PPF: Let's elope.
I won't breathe a word.
Not gonna argue, can't be bothered. I'll reply. Fact remains however that we are omnivores. Our bodies are geared toward the consumption of both plant material and meat. It only makes sense that there are similarities between our digestive systems and bodily functions to those of herbivores -- it would only be too easy to point out similarities between our bodies and carnivores as well.
I eat meat because I crave it, whether it tastes good or not is irrelevant. I think pickle juice tastes good and I could drink jars of that **** day in and day out. In fact, I have just literally cleared away the last of my baby gherkins so as to down the delicious vinegar remnants within. The resulting delicious is the only reason I even bought the jar in the first place. Taste is subjective. I don't like the taste of a cooked steak but I'll eat it if I'm in the mood. I don't care for pork but I like the way it feels. I'd prefer a steak that's still crawling on its last legs, mooing. Tastes better that way.
A carnivore hardly has "all pointy teeth". :P Look in your cat or dog's mouth sometime.
What would you consider "pointy teeth"? Molars have points.
Also, despite what the website says in the first paragraph, compare a domestic dog and a wolf. They are still very similar in tooth structure and wolves did not "evolve" eating kibble. There really hasn't been enough time between the production of kibble and the development of evolutionary appearance to blame it on "plant material" in kibble.
At what point in time did we begin to eat meat -- is it what separated the Neanderthal and the Cro magnon? -- and where is your source for that information?
Edit: Actually, we have four canines. Top and bottom.
Also, a dog's teeth are not much sharper than ours. A puppy naturally will have sharper teeth than a seven year old, they have not had the life experience to wear them down to blunt, rounded points. Oh yes, they still can do damage, but so can our own. Our teeth look pretty puny compared to a dogs but we can still inflict some pretty nasty damage with our measly four canines.
As you most likely well know in your extensive research, our incisors, canines, and premolars are designed for pulling, tearing, and grinding flesh (in that respective order) while the twelve molars we have were designed for grinding plant material. Once again, our mouths are not designed to handle any one particular diet more than the other, we're well equipped for both.
If you REALLY REALLY REALLY !!! wanted to argue, you could lay it out like this:
Meat teeth: 8 incisors, 4 canines.
Omnivorous teeth: 8 pre-molars.
Plant teeth: 12 molars.
OH NO ITS EVEN. :(
Meanwhile, I found this article, which rather disagrees with the one you supplied.
HAY. dont td me cos im beautiful :K
Also, this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkyFozcL-xw&feature=related
(I am a foxhunter so don't be all OMG! HATER!! It's Bill Bailey. It's great.)
Edit2NW: I was just being friendly. Not hatin'. (And I didn't say you TD'd me, it was a general statement.) My best mate is a veg. I can't HATE!!!! or he'd probably boot me in the face. I don't like veggies that try to be sympathetic toward animals without doing anything about it, it's counterproductive. If you're a Veg like Alan Davies is a veg then knock yourself the hell out, he's pretty cool. Otherwise, I ain't feelin' ya.
· 8 years ago