How to find a court record from 1781 in the state of New York?
I am researching my ancestors John Mandigo and Ambrose Vincent. There was a warrant for their arrest in 1781 in Columbia County New York. A letter from their accuser is held somewhere on file in the state of New York. Does anyone know where I can get access to this letter?
Here is where I found this information in the book: Minutes of the Commissioners for detecting and defeating conspiracies in the state of New York
, Volume 2 (Google eBook)
Here is the text:
28 Mar 1781
A Letter from Jacob Ford Esq. of Kings District was laid before the Board inclosing sundry Examinations respecting the Conduct of Ambrose Vincent, John Mandigo and Stokes Potter which Letter and examinations are in the words following (to wit) (See Letter and Examinations on File)  resolved that the Consideration of the above Letter and Examinations be postponed until to Morrow.-
- wendy cLv 79 years agoFavorite Answer
TITLE: Minutes of the Commissioners for detecting and defeating conspiracies in the state of New York. Albany county sessions, 1778-1781. Edited by Victor Hugo Paltsits
New York (State). Commission for detecting and defeating conspiracies, 1777-1778
Paltsits, Victor Hugo, 1867-1952, ed.
PUBLISHED: Albany, Pub. by the state of New York [J. B. Lyon company, state printers] 1909-10.
United States -- History -- Revolution, 1775-1783 -- Committees of safety
New York (State) - History -- Revolution, 1775-1783 -- Sources
SERIES: The Loyalist library
PHYSICAL DESCRIPTION: 3 v. illus. 28 cm.
NOTE: I. 1778-1779.--II. 1780-1781.--III. Analytical index.
HOLDINGS: Go to the home page and do a search to locate this title, the libraries that has this title and its call number.
the above fully describes the BOOK. The document itself may or may not be in any court...the forward of the book (or notes) normally tell where they accessed the record.
Me, I'd be emailing the New York state archives to see what they can tell you.
the book itself MIGHT TELL YOU the source, which happens to be the minutes. It does not prove that the letter itself still exists.
(where's juanaquena when we need her?? )
- JuanaqueñaLv 79 years ago
Since I'm assuming you found the text of the 1781 letter in an actual copy of the book or in an online full-text version (I found it on the Internet Archive - http://www.archive.org ), you probably looked at the title page of the multi-volume set. On the title page, it states it was edited by the [New York] State Historian in 1909, Victor Hugo Pasitis.
It looks like the original letter and accompanying papers from the Commission (Commission For Detecting and Defeating Conspiracies in the State of New York - even then!) may be held by the
New York State Archives
New York State Education Department
Cultural Education Center
Albany, NY 12230
(518) 474-8955 (Research Services)
Email reference/research service: email@example.com <firstname.lastname@example.org>
Home page: http://www.archives.nysed.gov/
It Is part of this archival collection of papers:
Revolutionary War papers, 1774-1784
Washington's Headquarters State Historic Site (Newburgh, N.Y.)
Local system # (NIC)NYOR599-880-0015
You can see the list of all the records/papers in the collection listed in this online catalog entry:
I'm not clear if the archival collection, Revolutionary War Papers, 1744-1784, is kept at the archives in Albany or at the Washington's Headquarters State Historic Site at Newburgh, NY.
This is the link the the New York State Archives web page regarding their research services:
You would need to contact (I recommend a phone conversation) someone there (see the state archives contact info I have listed above) to find out if a photocopy or scanned image that can be sent as an email attachment can be made of the letter for you. There will be a charge. Near the bottom of the research services page is a link to a price list of purchase copies. Be sure to give the person whom to you speak the Local System # for the archived collection. It's like a call number for a library book - it identifies just that collection of papers and records.
If you wish, you can make arrangements to go to the archives yourself and have the actual letter retrieved for you to look at. Again, the archives staff can make a photocopy (for a charge) for you.
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