Spirituality...When does devotion become meditation ?

In tantric system of beliefs...one of the methods towards attaining enlightenment is through devotion. 'Bhakti Mukti Pradaya' ~ 'Devotion will liberate you'. In Tantra, it is a method and not a philosophy. As a method it clearly mentions that devotion is useless, unless it becomes meditation and one can be devoted to anything in the Universe.

But when exactly does devotion become meditation? What happens when devotion becomes fanaticism?

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    When one becomes 'one with The One, they become of one Mind and heart in all of their being. He is constant in Consciousness and unchanging in all.

    Once this is attained, (for me) meditation comes as it is needed. Truth could never truly be considered as being fanatic to the individual seeking Spiritual enlightenment. :D

    Peace and Blessings

    (((Great Ape)))

  • 8 years ago

    Without meditation, mukti is not at all possible. Devotion may or may not become meditation till the end of life. We see our learned devotees around us including the great Yahoo members go on ...on and on in devotion but never understand the true way. That is the reason for my asking questions again and again...

  • 8 years ago

    Devotion generally focuses on worship

    Mediation generally focuses on understanding.

    If one follows logic, then the devotion to enlightenment can only be achieved by meditating on what it means to be (or become) enlightened.

    Fanaticism generally involves (often violent) action, the forcing of the religion on others either through teaching or destruction of those who oppose the religion. Meditation should avoid that.

  • Yamini
    Lv 7
    8 years ago

    It is unacceptable to come with tantric system of belief with general belief. Except some yogis, no one know tantric system of belief. Devotion is a kind of bakti with god. There is no connection between devotion and meditation. Devotee is the one who will have bakti on god. But, anyone even an atheist too can do meditations. Meditation is in some ways connected to god, in more ways not connected to religious. It is wrong on some points, since the religious people often do meditations, it is believed by more people that meditations are related to religious. Devotion will liberate since the attention is with god. In no way devotion become meditation. In over 1,000 published research studies, various methods of meditation have been linked to changes in metabolism, blood pressure, brain activation, and other bodily processes. Meditation has been used in clinical settings as a method of stress and pain reduction. Meditation refers to a family of self-regulation practices that focus on training attention and awareness in order to bring mental processes under greater voluntary control and thereby foster general mental well-being and development and/or specific capacities such as calm, clarity, and concentration" Hence, devotion will never become meditation.

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  • Anonymous
    8 years ago

    Devotion itself is a meditation.

  • 8 years ago

    When devotion coupled with spiritual finding of inner self

  • 8 years ago

    *** it-2 pp. 363-364 Meditation ***

    Wrong Meditation. After the apostles Peter and John had been arrested by the captain of the temple and the Jewish rulers had threatened them and charged them not to teach further on the basis of Jesus’ name, the apostles returned to the other disciples. These prayed to God, referring to David’s prophetic words, saying: “‘Why did nations become tumultuous and peoples meditate upon empty things?’ . . . Even so, both Herod and Pontius Pilate with men of nations and with peoples of Israel were in actuality gathered together in this city against your holy servant Jesus, whom you anointed, in order to do what things your hand and counsel had foreordained to occur.”—Ac 4:1-3, 18, 21, 23-28.

    The “empty things” here spoken of are shown by the context to be, not the things that people ordinarily seek in life, but things that are devoid of all good—actually thinking, speaking, and attempting to fight against Jehovah and his servants—utterly futile things.—Ac 4:25.

    King David said of those who hated him and sought his death: “Deceptions they keep muttering [form of ha‧ghah′] all day long.” (Ps 38:12) These meditations were not mere passing thoughts. They were deeply rooted in the heart, their inclination being toward that wicked pursuit. The writer of Proverbs says of such men: “Despoiling is what their heart keeps meditating, and trouble is what their own lips keep speaking.”—Pr 24:2.

    Jesus said to those hating him: “Why are you reasoning these things in your hearts?” (Mr 2:8) Of all who would ‘suppress the truth in an unrighteous way,’ the apostle Paul says: “They became empty-headed in their reasonings and their unintelligent heart became darkened.” Such meditation proves fatal to those indulging in it.—Ro 1:18, 21.

  • 8 years ago

    without devotion we can not do meditation.we hve to tune our mind with complete devotion and surrendering towards guru or god . then meditation will be good.

  • Gaura
    Lv 7
    8 years ago

    Meditation becomes devotion, not the other way round.

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