Why have we removed Religious teaching from our education, when the Founding fathers wanted otherwise?
I will only illustrate some quotes here so you get my point. If you want more quotes and writings please go and read it in the American Tract Society.
John Adams said "The general principles on which the fathers achieved independence were...the general principles of Christianity....I will avow that I believed, and do believe, that those general principles of Christianity are as eternal and immutable as the existence and attributes of God"
John Quincy Adams asked on July 4, 1837 "Why is it that next to the birth-day of the Savior of the World, your most joyous and most venerated festival returns on this day?" then he went on to answer it "it is not that in the chain of human events the birth day of the nation is indissolubly linked with the birth day of the Savior? That is forms a leading event in the progress of the gospel dispensation? Is it not that the Declaration of Independence first organized the first social compact on the foundations of the Redeemer's mission upon earth? That it laid the cornerstone of human government upon the first precepts of Christianity?
John Jay (first Chief Supreme Court Justice) said "Providence has given to our people the choice of their rulers and it is the duty and as well as the privilege and interest of our Christian nation to select and prefer Christians for their rulers"
George Washington on his farewell Address (disappeared from Student Texts) he pointed out that the two foundations for prosperity in America were Religion and Morality. He said "Of all the dispositions and habits which lead to political prosperity, religion and morality are indispensable supports. In vain would that man claim the tribute of patriotism who should labor to subvert these great pillars.
Separation of Church and State was only once piece of a full letter in which Thomas Jefferson was actually encouraging the practice of religion, and in the letter he said that the need for a wall of separation was to ensure that no one religion was to become THE religion of the USA.
Supreme Court Cases:
Church of the Holy Trinity v. United States (1892) - 87 precedents to maintain Christian principles in our laws and institutions.
Separation of Church and State - 1962 Engel v. Vitale to remove school prayer. No Precedents/New Policy was created right there an then without any Precedents whatsoever.
James Wilson (Founder/Supreme Court Justice) - "Human Law must rest its authority ultimately upon the authority of that law which is divine. Far from being rivals or enemies, religion and law are twin sisters. Indeed, these two sciences run into each other. The Divine law..forms an essential part of both".
- Anonymous9 years agoFavorite Answer
You are mistaken.
"As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion"
Treaty of Tripoli, 1797, signed by John Adams
Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. Ideas must be distinct before reason can act upon them; and no man ever had a distinct idea of the trinity. It is the mere Abracadabra of the mountebanks calling themselves the priests of Jesus."
-Thomas Jefferson, letter to Francis Adrian Van der Kemp, 30 July, 1816
I concur with you strictly in your opinion of the comparative merits of atheism and demonism, and really see nothing but the latter in the being worshipped by many who think themselves Christians.
-Thomas Jefferson, letter to Richard Price, Jan. 8, 1789 (Richard Price had written to TJ on Oct. 26. about the harm done by religion and wrote "Would not Society be better without Such religions? Is Atheism less pernicious than Demonism?")
I never submitted the whole system of my opinions to the creed of any party of men whatever in religion, in philosophy, in politics, or in anything else where I was capable of thinking for myself. Such an addiction is the last degradation of a free and moral agent.
-Thomas Jefferson, letter to Francis Hopkinson, March 13, 1789
The whole history of these books [the Gospels] is so defective and doubtful that it seems vain to attempt minute enquiry into it: and such tricks have been played with their text, and with the texts of other books relating to them, that we have a right, from that cause, to entertain much doubt what parts of them are genuine. In the New Testament there is internal evidence that parts of it have proceeded from an extraordinary man; and that other parts are of the fabric of very inferior minds. It is as easy to separate those parts, as to pick out diamonds from dunghills.
-Thomas Jefferson, letter to John Adams, January 24, 1814
Christianity neither is, nor ever was a part of the common law.
-Thomas Jefferson, letter to Dr. Thomas Cooper, February 10, 1814Source(s): http://nobeliefs.com/jefferson.htm
- Anonymous9 years ago
There was disagreement in that day as this. Fortunately, the Fourteenth Amendment protects against the establishment of religions at the state level as well as the federal. A fine thing, since that was the intent of those who promoted the Bill of Rights :)
"The first stage of this education being the schools of the hundreds, wherein the great mass of the people will receive their instruction, the principal foundations of future order will be laid here. Instead, therefore, of putting the Bible and Testament into the hands of the children at an age when their judgments are not sufficiently matured for religious inquiries, their memories may here be stored with the most useful facts from Grecian, Roman, European, and American history. The first elements of morality too may be instilled into their minds; such as, when further developed as their judgments advance in strength, may teach them how to work out their own greatest happiness"
-- Thomas Jefferson; from 'Notes on Virginia' Query XIV
hope this helps
- Raven SlightLv 59 years ago
1) Which religion?
2) Most of the Founding Fathers were deists, meaning their "God" was at best an impersonal one, an entity that constructed 'laws' and then left his own creation to fend for itself.
3) We have realized what a singular, state-mandated-and-enforced religion does. Hell, this was realized with the first amendment! Which was part of the Bill of Rights! Which the Founding Fathers were a primary force behind!
4) We have developed both morality and knowledge without the need to incite a god. In fact "god" does more to divide modern civilization than it does to unite.
5) Law actually existed before religion. Religion rose to explain law, which (as is the case of morality) we understand enough know that we don't need religion to explain laws.
I could go on, but I already feel that you won't pay attention to any of this.
- Eclectic HereticLv 79 years ago
The Founding Fathers lived and wrote in much more openly religious times. The fact is that most of them were Deists, not Christians, but they did accept certain "divine" principles as a basis for morality. However, they also created the First Amendment to keep any one religion from being dominant, they had seen too much of that in Europe and wanted no part of it here.
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- 9 years ago
The reason for that is that in truth, teaching religion (the government thinks) is bringing church and state together.But if it is decided for someone to teach religion; the subject is usually ALL religion. And just the subject of religion itself is considered pretty touchy. Especially if the kid is considered to be the type of child who has parents of a different religion.
The only reason behind most not wanting Christianity to be taught is that Christianity calls all other religions fake... So if it is taught it should be taught as if from an almost atheist view.Source(s): Lots of religious experience
- Gs GLv 49 years ago
We have removed it because we are also a country founded on the principals of freedom of religion. And also because back when the founding fathers were alive pretty much everyone was a christian and no one wanted to oppose anything religious with the fear of becoming an outsider or being excommunicated or being called a witch.. now there are much more non-christians so people can disagree with religion practices in schools and not get afraid of the social consequences.
- 9 years ago
Well, imagining you actually know the TRUE intentions of the founding fathers, you know the TRUE religion that they are advocating, and that religious TRUTH is backed up by scientific FACT, I'll have no problem teaching it. However, the majority of the founding fathers were deists, there are many quotes from them expressing their discomfort with the idea of organized religion, not everything the founding fathers wished is now expressed (there are political parties, much to George Washington's chagrin), and we have grown in intelligence since the late 1700's.
- RenLv 59 years ago
There are other religious cultures in this country. So are you saying we need to teach all the other cultures religions too? That's what religious school's are for, I mean, I am ok that schools teach children about the history of religions and so forth but I don't agree it should be taught in a religious manner. That's all I'm saying.Source(s): Atheist.
- 9 years ago
The United States is a secular state. They allow you to have freedom of religion which means you can believe what ever you want. Teaching about a certain religion goes against what america stands for. Also if you wish to learn more about a religion then you should go to church, that is what they are there for. It is un-american to force your beliefs on others.
- Giggly GiraffeLv 69 years ago
The school system was private and not public. The founding fathers also had capitalism in mind over socialism. It wasn't till the 1950's when education went public .. And look what's happened to the education since the govt confiscated it ...