Anonymous asked in Politics & GovernmentPolitics · 9 years ago

Why don't Tobacco and Alcohol fall under the control of the DEA? (As opposed to the ATF)?

Aren't tobacco and alcohol drugs too?


@jim b.................

lol.............Wow. Marijuana really is illegal because they can't make any money off it. That's crazy.

Update 2:


So one enforces regulations and the other enforces bans.

I guess I don't understand why drugs aren't regulated OR alcohol and tobacco aren't banned.

What's with this inconsistency?

11 Answers

  • Hobbit
    Lv 7
    9 years ago
    Favorite Answer

    Basically, ATF is a tax enforcemet agency. DEA is a controlled substance enforcement agency. In short, the ATF is mainly about making sure Uncle Sam gets his cut.

    Someboydy mentioned marijuana. Here's the deal: some drugs (e.g. meth) really are seriously dangerous -- a user is not only hurting himself, he's a menace. To date, the information on pot says it isn't. A health risk -- almost certainly. Is a user a danger t others? Not really (unless operating a car and such -- also ture o falcohol). and the tax revenues from pot wold be in the billions. Plus evidence from othe rcounties wehre pot is decriminalized suggests legalization would seriously urt organized crime but not lead to any big logn-term increase in drug use generally.

    So why is pot illegal?

    Look at history. In the early part o fthe 20th centruy, there was a huge push for "reforming society" --Prohibitio being one example. That didn't last. But pot was also declared illegal -- and tht stuck. The importat thing is t understand HOW the "moral entrepreneurs" (a social science term) who accomplished this pulled it off. They constructed and heavily promoted an image of a pot user as a dangerous, violent criminal type --and as one who was from the lowest classes - and mainly a blakck or other "non-white" Anyone who questioned the rhetoric was stigmatized as either a)a low class criminal or b) a moral degernate and working t undermine deency and the American way of life. A list o fpot's supposed negative effects was created --entirely without beneft of an supporting research.

    The descendents of these moral entrepreneurs are still beating that drum. And far too many researchers, funding agencies and academic institutions choose not to try to fingt the battle for scientific accuacy. Nor do I blame them. Even a hint of an objective stud brings down the wrath of the moral entrepreneurs.

  • Rayne
    Lv 7
    9 years ago

    ATF is regulatory

    It regulates the manufacture, distribution, and sale of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms

    DEA is enforcement

    It enforces the laws pertaining to the manufacture, distribution, and sale of illegal drugs

  • Anonymous
    9 years ago

    My recollection of this is that it was originally started to set and enforce taxes on Alcohol and Tobacco following the repeal of prohibition, an effort that led it into working against organized crime, which is roughly where the Firearms came into the picture.

  • Anonymous
    9 years ago

    They don't fall under DEA, in most states they fall under ATF and State ATF control.

    Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms (ATF) .... hello are u dialing the right number?

    Now, Drugs fall under DEA and they control drugs, and bust illegal drugs, etc..

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  • Anonymous
    9 years ago

    DEA deals with illegal drugs. Last time I checked, tobacco and alcohol are still legal.

  • 3 years ago

    It replaced right into a nil.5 baked concept that backfired in a great way. conceitedness replaced into displayed by ability of the leaders as many ATF agencies expressed their lack of self belief in this scheme. They have been shown precise and now some heads would desire to roll that pushed this fiasco.

  • Anonymous
    9 years ago

    The DEA is under the Justice Dept and the ATF is run by the Treasury Dept

  • 9 years ago

    The DEA focuses on illegal drugs.

  • Anonymous
    9 years ago

    The ATF was there first.

    [The ATF was formerly part of the United States Department of the Treasury, having been formed in 1886 as the "Revenue Laboratory" within the Treasury Department's Bureau of Internal Revenue. The history of ATF can be subsequently traced to the time of the revenuers or "revenoors"[6] and the Bureau of Prohibition, which was formed as a unit of the Bureau of Internal Revenue in 1920, was made an independent agency within the Treasury Department in 1927, was transferred to the Justice Department in 1930, and became, briefly, a division of the FBI in 1933.

    When the Volstead Act was repealed in December 1933, the Unit was transferred from the Department of Justice back to the Department of the Treasury where it became the Alcohol Tax Unit of the Bureau of Internal Revenue. Special Agent Eliot Ness and several members of The "Untouchables", who had worked for the Prohibition Bureau while the Volstead Act was still in force, were transferred to the ATU. In 1942, responsibility for enforcing federal firearms laws was given to the ATU.

    In the early 1950s, the Bureau of Internal Revenue was renamed "Internal Revenue Service" (IRS),[7] and the ATU was given the additional responsibility of enforcing federal tobacco tax laws. At this time, the name of the ATU was changed to the Alcohol and Tobacco Tax Division (ATTD).

    In 1968, with the passage of the Gun Control Act, the agency changed its name again, this time to the Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms Division of the IRS and first began to be referred to by the initials "ATF." In Title XI of the Organized Crime Control Act of 1970, Congress enacted the Explosives Control Act, 18 U.S.C.A. Chapter 40, which provided for close regulation of the explosives industry and designated certain arsons and bombings as federal crimes. The Secretary of the Treasury was made responsible for administering the regulatory aspects of the new law, and was given jurisdiction over criminal violations relating to the regulatory controls. These responsibilities were delegated to the ATF division of the IRS. The Secretary and the Attorney General were given concurrent jurisdiction over arson and bombing offenses. Pub.L. 91-452, 84 Stat. 922 October 15, 1970.

    In 1972 ATF was established as a separate Bureau within the Treasury Department when Treasury Department Order 221, effective July 1, 1972 transferred the responsibilities of the ATF division of the IRS to the new Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms. Rex D. Davis oversaw the transition, becoming the bureau's first director, having headed the division since 1970. During his tenure, Davis shepherded the organization into a new era where federal firearms and explosives laws addressing violent crime became the primary mission of the agency.[8] However, taxation and other alcohol issues remained priorities as ATF collected billions of dollars in alcohol and tobacco taxes, and undertook major revisions of the Federal wine labeling regulations relating to use of appellations of origin and varietal designations on wine labels.

    In the wake of the terrorist attack on the World Trade Center on September 11, 2001, President George W. Bush signed into law the Homeland Security Act of 2002. In addition to the creation of the Department of Homeland Security, the law shifted ATF from the Department of the Treasury to the Department of Justice. The agency's name was changed to Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives. However, the agency still was referred to as the "ATF" for all purposes. Additionally, the task of collection of federal tax revenue derived from the production of tobacco and alcohol products and the regulatory function related to protecting the public in issues related to the production of alcohol, previously handled by the Bureau of Internal Revenue as well as by ATF, was transferred to the newly established Alcohol and Tobacco Tax and Trade Bureau (TTB), which remained within the Treasury Department. These changes took effect January 24, 2003.]

  • Anonymous
    9 years ago

    I'm pretty sure it's because of the A and the T

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