What was the "Word" before he became flesh and dwelt among us?
Was he the Torah? I mean, now, according to the overwhelming part of Christianity, it seems that "THE WORD" is a collection of ink dots on paper in a very sacred book called the Bible. The in dots add up to some life giving info but are they alive and sharper than a double edged sword, able to divide the thoughts of a person and show them their need for a Savior? Or is that actually the work of the Holly Spirit who is using the scriptures to that end along with many other convincing works?
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- Anonymous10 years agoFavorite Answer
Don't you mean WHO was the Word? The Word is the eternal Son of God. John 1:1 leaves us in no doubt, that the Word was there, in the beginning, with God "and the Word was God". John 1:14 tells us "the Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us." Who made his dwelling among men? Why, Jesus of Nazareth. That is why John and the other disciples could say "We have seen his glory, the glory of the One and Only, who came from the Father, full of grace and truth."
Christ Jesus is the living Word of God. Remember how God spoke all things into being? That is the Word of God as spoken. When the Son of God humbled himself to take on human form, he was fully man and fully God and so the Word dwelt among us.
It is through the power of the Holy Spirit that the written word comes alive and transforms lives. "Consequently, faith comes from hearing the message, and the message is heard through the word of Christ" (Romans 10:17). The Holy Spirit opens our eyes, unstops our ears and softens our hearts so that we may receive the true gospel.
So we have the written Word and the living Word of God. Since the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit together make up the One Being who is God, then it is entirely proper to say that the Word was God.
Jesus is the Living Word. The Scriptures point to Him. The text speaks the Truth with should point us to the Source of Life. Reading the Bible alone cannot save us, we have to apply the message. The Bible says we live by every word which proceeds out of the mouth of God. The Bible is good for doctrine and helps keep us on the right path, so we don't fall into error. Paul had to deal with some churches that were starting to go in another direction, such as the Galatian church. They were beginning to follow another gospel (which really isn't the gospel at all), but it was putting them into the bondage of legalism, whereby they had to disregard their victory, liberty, and grace in Christ.
- Cosmos JonesLv 710 years ago
Jesus is quoted as saying ''before Abraham was ,, I am.'' Another scripture says he was slain from the foundations of the earth. This appears to speak to the timelessness of God and to an existence outside of time. Jesus Christ is the same, yesterday, today and forever.
He was with God and a part of God at all times. When he agreed to come to earth to expound on sacred truth , he changed the way people viewed his Father. He spoke for the Father and to him. Jesus said he only did what he saw the Father doing . His miracles were the Fathers miracles as seen by Jesus. Jesus in the second Adam. The first was disobedient. Jesus was obedient to death.
As for him being the Torah, no he was not the Torah which was scribed by men and was filtered by their own prejudices. It does not mean there was not inspiration by God but we are also aware that we prophesy in part and always have. There is no biblical disclaimer that the prophecies in the Bible were not partial or influenced by the man giving them. To the contrary the Bible says the spirit of the prophet is subject to the prophet. The Bible says Moses ,who spoke face to face with God and not in dark speech and riddles like other prophets. Moses made concessions to the people when he agreed to allow easy divorcement of wives.
Why would Jesus be the Torah ?Do we really believe God wanted the people to slaughter innocents and rape people and take them captive as slaves? No , of course not. Do we think God really sent she bears to kill young men who were mocking Elisha by saying ''Go up ye bald head?''
I believe the young men were killed by bears. I am just not certain that was God's perfect will and way to deal with mocking young men. It could have been a coincidence that the shebear came forth.
This doesn't take away the important lesson of the story. Don't mess with God's prophets.
Yes , there is powerful importance to the scriptures . God has breathed into them but given us a brain and the holy spirit to judge what is truth and what is cultural prejudice. Why were women considered unclean a longer period of time after they gave birth to a female child? This is recorded as a practice in the New Testament. Does God really think women are unclean or are they washed in his blood and forgiven along side of men? We are led by the Holy Spirit now and the Bible is to be read through the son glasses of love. If it is not loving , dismiss it. Is it loving to rebuke people from the pulpit or is it the way of God to go to them and them along and bring loving concern about behavior as a father to a son or sister to a sister?
Why did women have to eat dirt from the temple floor if they were suspected of adultery to prove their innocence.? If they lived , they were innocent. I have heard the explanation that this was because on the blood of the sacrifice could be in the temple. No bleeding person of any kind was allowed .
When Uzziah steadied the ark of the Covenant and died for it. Was this the judgment of God or like touching a high voltage wire ? I think it was a whoops.
Jesus is the living word of God.
The Bible is just a book of people relating their experiences with God and they are not always loving or humane. They are sinners and the man who says he has no sin deceives himself.
This goes for every person who wrote every word down in the King James . The Bible was never supposed to be worshipedas God. That would be absurd.
- TimLv 410 years ago
The Word was with God & Word was God. Rhema is the Living word which is double edged sword. Not the black dots on white paper.
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- worker4IAM <'><Lv 610 years ago
The Eternal Word
1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 He was in the beginning with God.
3 All things were made through Him, and without Him nothing was made that was made.
4 In Him was life, and the life was the light of men.
5 And the light shines in the darkness, and the darkness did not comprehend it.
EDIT: (without Him nothing was made that was made.)
The Word is YAHUWEH'S Messenger, His Only Begotten Son, The Heir, The Lawgiver, He Who appeared to Mosheh in the burning bush and upon Senai.
- Anonymous10 years ago
John’s words draw attention to another privilege that God’s Son enjoyed, namely, being a spokesman. From the beginning, he served as the Word. Thus, when Jehovah spoke to Adam, and later when he addressed Adam together with Eve, he likely did so through the Word. And who better to convey God’s instructions for mankind’s welfare than one who had a fondness for them?—John 1:1, 2.
How it must have pained the Word to see Eve and then Adam disobey their Creator! And how he must have yearned to remedy the ills their disobedience brought on their offspring! (Genesis 2:15-17; 3:6, 8; Romans 5:12) Addressing Satan, who had encouraged Eve to rebel, Jehovah declared: “I shall put enmity between you and the woman and between your seed and her seed.” (Genesis 3:15) Having witnessed what happened in Eden, the Word realized that as the primary part of the woman’s “seed,” he would become the target of vicious hatred. He knew that Satan was a manslayer.—John 8:44.
When Satan later questioned faithful Job’s integrity, the Word must have felt outrage at the slanderous accusations leveled against his Father. (Job 1:6-10; 2:1-4) Indeed, in his role as archangel, the Word is known as Michael, whose name means “Who Is Like God?” and indicates how he champions Jehovah against all who aspire to usurp God’s sovereignty.—Daniel 12:1; Revelation 12:7-10.
- KhakidoodleLv 710 years ago
God is the Word, and He became flesh when Jesus lived among us.
- PrizmLv 410 years ago
If the Word was there from the beginning, why did he let thousands of years go by and millions of deaths before he says "oh wait I bettar go down and do teh sacrifice!11 lol oppz! Oh and remembar thse lawz? plz cancel them kthxbye"
- Christian SinnerLv 710 years ago
Jesus was not the Torah, but fulfilled the Torah. And the Torah died with Him, though, in relation to those who trust in Him. For anyone who wants to pick up the Torah again (I'm strictly using the Torah term as the Law, as in something to have to live by, not the word of God as it is commanded), may do so at any time . . . if they think they can do it.
For those in Christ, the Law died in a sense, and life is lived in the only way possible; by the will and power of God through His Spirit whop baptises the saved and stays with them forever.
The Word (captial use of the term), is God. I tend to think of it as a facet of God, as a gem is faceted. God reveals Himself in many facets, and the Word, the High Tower, the Comforter, the Peace, the Rest, are all facets of God in the way He revealed Hismelf. The Word takes on special significance in that he manifested in the Flesh as the Kinsman Redeemer, to redeem His people from the wrath to come.
So the Kinsman Redeemer is the savior, for God is my Savior. And he has accepted those like me into His Sabbath (Rest), because He is the Lord of the Sabbath.
At no time (concerning the Holy Spirit also), would it be good for me to study the ways God revealed Himself without coming back to the Oneness of Him. If I do stray too long away from that Oneness, I can march off into error, as did the Mormons, Jehovah's Witnesses, and any of those who strayed. They begin to see God as separate, then attempt to related Him to all sorts of things including angels. Jesus Christ is not an angel, as I think Hebrews 1 demonstrates, and Hebrews 2 gives why Christ is so much more weighty than the word of angels.
1 We must pay the most careful attention, therefore, to what we have heard, so that we do not drift away. 2 For since the message spoken through angels was binding, and every violation and disobedience received its just punishment, 3 how shall we escape if we ignore so great a salvation? This salvation, which was first announced by the Lord, was confirmed to us by those who heard him. 4 God also testified to it by signs, wonders and various miracles, and by gifts of the Holy Spirit distributed according to his will.