What's the difference between MARSOC and Marine force recon and SOCOM ?
- MAJ KevLv 79 years agoBest Answer
I thought we went through this with you in the past already??
BTW: Force Recon ain't special operations in any way, shape or form.
EDIT: no, Force Recon has never been considered a SOF, and in fact, one of the key reasons that MARSOC was stood up was that the Marine leadership did not want to loose what Force Recon brought to the regular Marine Corps, and opted instead to go against their instinct and create "special" Marines, i.e.: MARSOC. Members of Force Recon were indeed used to help stand up the organization of MARSOC, but that was for initial IOC and nothing more.Source(s): 23 years REGULAR ARMY - including several with USASOC; 4 years USAR / NG
- Anonymous9 years ago
Marine Corps Force Recon does not exist anymore. The Marine Corps has Battalion Recon and MARSOC. I was in 3rd Recon in Okinawa Japan for one year before getting hurt. Battalion Level Recon Marines are Infantry Marines that are tasked with job that are a little more complex than what a regular Infantry Marine would be tasked with. We are Airborne, and Combat Scuba qualed among other things. Force Recon went away when the Marine Corps created MARSOC. MARSOC is the Marine Corps answer to SOCOM. Traditionally SOCOM has had very few to zero Marines permanently assigned to the Command simply because the Marine Corps being so poor and small, we wanted to retain our own "Elite" guys. If they were given to SOCOM the Marine Corps would lose operational control over them. SOCOM is made up of primarily Army, Air Force and Navy Special Operators. MARSOC is made up of about 99 percent Marines with a few Army advisers (Green Berets) to show the Marine Corps how to use an entire Command of Special Operators.
SOCOM- Army, Navy, Air Force with very little Marine Corps Special Operations Forces
MARSOC- Marine Corps with very little Army Special Operations Forces (Also is a relatively new Command)
Recon- Marines that have a little more training than a conventional Marine Grunt.
EDIT: MAJ Kev is incorrect. Force Recon when it existed was most definitely a "special force". When MARSOC was created Force Recon Marines stood that Command up. Your year's as a National Guardsman and Army Reservist are lying to you.
EDIT: MAJ Kev, Force Recon was "not considered" a SOF simply due to the fact that Marine Corps leadership always refers to every marine as being "elite" there for we did not recognize an elite unit within an Elite Force. Force Recon has always been a SOF due to its very nature of conduct on the battle field and missions it carried out. The Marine Corps doesn't label a unit with SOF credentials like the other services do just to give the individuals a warm and fuzzy. You are arguing with an individual that is exactly what you say he is not. I got out of the Marine Corps no less than seven months ago as a SOF operator in a Recon Battalion. Your argument is based off speculation from an ill informed and disconnected belief.Source(s): Marine Corps Infantry Sergeant
- WRGLv 79 years ago
In very basic terms.
SOCOM is a joint services command that controls all special operations, Army, Navy, Air Force & Marine.
MARSOC is the marine component of SOCOM
Force Recon are special operations units generally not part of SOCOM but kept under the command of USMC.
- Anonymous9 years ago
MARSOC and Recon Marines are the same thing and SOCOM or Special Operations Command is the command center for special operations
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- 3 years ago
maximum stress Recon battalions became MarSOC battalions as we had to regulate the way we produce warfare. stress Recon became initially equivalent to SEALs, appearing deep reconnaissance and diving. MarSOC equivalent may be the military Rangers, dealing out extreme speed, low drag warfighting on the enemy's homestead. stress Recon ~ Deep Reconnaissance MarSOC ~ Direct action