KIZE
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KIZE asked in Politics & GovernmentImmigration · 9 years ago

If illegals are paying taxes, How?

The Internal Revenue Service said 3.8 million returns were filed in 2009 using ITIN.

Accountants and tax officials allege illegal immigrants use ITIN the most but foreign investors use them as well, the newspaper said Sunday.

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With over 25 million illegals present and only 3.8 million people using ITIN numbers, how are all these illegals paying their taxes as pro-illegals claim?

Especially since all immigrants who are here legally are using ITIN numbers also?

Is this another fact that is mixed up in numbers with the legal immigrants filing?

Do you believe these illegals are filing taxes as claimed? If so, please explain how? And not by using a bias copy and paste article.

Update:

Pro illegals claim many are not using fake or stolen identities, are you now telling us different? Using a fake and stolen S.S. number is a felony, so how can they be in good standing?

Immigration counters!!

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  • ?
    Lv 5
    9 years ago
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    It just a stupid argument the Pro Illegals use. there is really no VALID reason an Illegal needs to be in the US. But all these Left Wing-nut Libtards like to try to make the Country a better place by supplying the media with lies and soft and cushy names like "Undocumented Worker"

    Calling an Illegal Immigrant an "undocumented worker" is like calling a Drug Dealer an Licensed Pharmacist.

    And if these Illegals are using Stolen S.S. #'s look at the problems it causes the person who owns the SS#. Now they have incomes that was reported by an employer but they did not report when they filed their taxes. This creates a whole set of problems. Audits, fraud investigations, reduced refunds for the REAL citizen. All this creates man hours of work to be resolved costing way more the the collected taxes paid in with the stolen SS#. The Libtards don't think of thinks like that.

    REPORT AND DEPORT.

    ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS POSE A DIRECT THREAT TO THE NATIONAL SECURITY OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.

    Source(s): AN ANGRY AMERICAN
  • 3 years ago

    ok IF the state they ensue to purchase products in contains a sales tax, they pay little or no into the equipment. Many pay little to no federal or state earnings tax because of the skill to declare extra dependents than you have. it is in the event that they illegally got here up with a SSN and paintings for a business enterprise which will pay into the tax equipment. Many paintings decrease than the table and are paid in money, then use the equipment to get different amenities. occasion, in the event that they stay in Michigan, there isn't any sales tax on food products, if different products are bought at flea-markets or storage sales, no taxes are amassed. in the event that they hire, returned no taxes. Many to no longer legally sign up their vehicles, so no sales taxes on that sale or registration costs. Now in the event that they're engaged on an unlawful SSN, they declare the utmost dependents, and returned pay little to no taxes. they do no longer report returns, because of the fact this might tutor their status, so returned if something is owed it is no longer paid. Now notwithstanding if the state contains a sales tax on food products, they use the food banks because of the fact of their constrained earnings, and returned pay no taxes for the food products. you spot there are a number of procedures around the equipment and a super form of understand precisely the thank you to do this.

  • 9 years ago

    Also remember pro-illegals will try and confuse everybody by saying they pay taxes when they purchase items. Only problem with that statement is that everybody pays states sales tax!

  • manx l
    Lv 6
    9 years ago

    Maybe because corrupt employers are paying them under the table so they do not have to pay the taxes associated with having an employee such as workman's comp.

    Corrupt employers pay undocumented workers less, subject them to terrible working conditions, ignore them when they are injured in work related accidents and pad their bottom line with the money they save.

    Hiring undocumented workers is great business. Everyone is complicit because no one wants to pay the price of a house or a meal cooked or built with American workers.

    they pay taxes when the rent an apartment or house; when they buy stuff. I wonder how many unscrupulous employers withhold taxes and never report them, pocketing the cash?

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  • 9 years ago

    ....."how are all these illegals paying their taxes as pro-illegals claim? " (in part)

    "ITIN"

    An ITIN, or Individual Taxpayer Identification Number, is a tax processing number only available for certain nonresident and resident aliens, their spouses, and dependents who cannot get a Social Security Number (SSN). It is a 9-digit number, beginning with the number "9", formatted like an SSN (NNN-NN-NNNN).

    To obtain an ITIN, you must complete IRS Form W-7, IRS Application for Individual Taxpayer Identification Number (PDF) . The Form W-7 requires documentation substantiating foreign/alien status and true identity for each individual. You may either mail the documentation, along with the Form W-7, to the address shown in the Form W-7 Instructions, present it at IRS walk-in offices, or process your application through an Acceptance Agent authorized by the IRS. Form W-7(SP), Solicitud de Número de Identificación Personal del Contribuyente del Servicio de Impuestos Internos (PDF) is available for use by Spanish speakers.

    Acceptance Agents are entities (colleges, financial institutions, accounting firms, etc.) who are authorized by the IRS to assist applicants in obtaining ITINs. They review the applicant's documentation and forward the completed Form W-7 to IRS for processing.

    NOTE: You cannot claim the earned income credit using an ITIN.

    Foreign persons who are individuals should apply for a social security number (SSN, if permitted) on Form SS-5 with the Social Security Administration, or should apply for an Individual Taxpayer Identification Number (ITIN) on Form W-7. Effective immediately, each ITIN applicant must now:

    * Apply using the revised Form W-7, Application for IRS Individual Taxpayer Identification Number; and

    * Attach a federal income tax return to the Form W-7.

    Applicants who meet an exception to the requirement to file a tax return (see the instructions for Form W-7) must provide documentation to support the exception.

    New W-7/ITIN rules were issued on December 17, 2003. For a summary of those rules, please see the new Form W-7 and its instructions.

    For more detailed information on ITINs, refer to:".......

    "Foreign Persons and IRS Employer Identification Numbers

    Foreign entities that are not individuals (i.e., foreign corporations, etc.) and that are required by Treasury Regulation 1.1441-1(e)(4)(viii) to have a federal Employer Identification Number (EIN) in order to claim an exemption from withholding because of a tax treaty (claimed on Form W-8BEN) need to submit Form SS-4 Application for Employer Identification Number to the Internal Revenue Service in order to apply for such an EIN. Those foreign entities filing Form SS-4 for the purpose of obtaining an EIN in order to claim a tax treaty exemption and which otherwise have no requirements to file a U.S. income tax return, employment tax return, or excise tax return, should comply with the following special instructions when filling out Form SS-4. When completing line 7b of Form SS-4, the applicant should write "N/A" in the block asking for an SSN or ITIN, unless the applicant already has an SSN or ITIN. When answering question 10 on Form SS-4, the applicant should check the "other" block and write or type in immediately after it one of the following phrases as most appropriate:

    "For W-8BEN Purposes Only".....

    http://www.irs.gov/businesses/small/international/...

    http://www.irs.gov/businesses/small/international/...

    "Illegals pave citizenship through taxes"

    http://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2011/04/18/Illegals...

    "Tax Returns by Illegal Immigrants Fall"

    http://latino.foxnews.com/latino/news/2010/11/16/u...

    "Federal employees owe $3 billion in taxes"

    http://voices.washingtonpost.com/federal-eye/2009/...

    "Nearly half of US households escape fed income tax

    Recession, new tax credits have nearly half of US households paying no federal income tax "

    http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Nearly-half-of-US-ho...

    My "bias copy and paste article" show that "foreign investors" do not need to use them.

    Not all "all immigrants who are here legally are using ITIN numbers" some immigrants do get a SSN.

    For someone who does not link from where their own claims came from you sure are full of accusations and please do not tell me what to use or how to answer a question.

    "Pro illegals claim many are not using fake or stolen identities, are you now telling us different?"

    No, you are trying to tell "Pro illegals" that they do not know what they are talking about and failing at that.

  • Anonymous
    9 years ago

    the t--ds have good standing due to being able to go undetected and not captured.every knows they are felon's except their children they are led to believe mamasista and papasita are legal and we are racists i.e. dreamer's

  • 9 years ago

    They are not paying taxes. They don't pay when they work under the table. The only place they pay any taxes is when they shop.

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