Are the gods of Psalm 82 the same as the gods of Exodus 12:12 or are they different?
“On that same night I will pass through Egypt and strike down every firstborn of both people and animals, and I will bring judgment on all the gods of Egypt. I am the LORD."
A psalm of Asaph.
God presides in the great assembly;
he renders judgment among the “gods”:
“How long will you defend the unjust
and show partiality to the wicked?
Defend the weak and the fatherless;
uphold the cause of the poor and the oppressed.
Rescue the weak and the needy;
deliver them from the hand of the wicked.
“The ‘gods’ know nothing, they understand nothing.
They walk about in darkness;
all the foundations of the earth are shaken.
“I said, ‘You are “gods”;
you are all sons of the Most High.’
But you will die like mere mortals;
you will fall like every other ruler.”
Rise up, O God, judge the earth,
for all the nations are your inheritance.
Someone who cares: Yes, you are seeing the same thing I am. But later in the Psalm, it also says that these gods must die like mortals. Jesus, in whom God's spirit dwelt in its fullness, had to die like a mortal, yet defeated death, so that we do not have to taste of it. Yet it seems he never walked about in darkness. That part of the Psalm does not seem to apply to him. I am just wondering about this stuff.
- 9 years agoFavorite Answer
They are different because when Jesus was accused of blasphemy by the Jewish leaders of the time for "making himself God", he did not deny it, but rather defended himself using that with which they could not argue, Psalms 82:6.
33The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God.
34Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?
35If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken;
36Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God?
Clearly, Jesus points out these Gods are those to whom the word of God came, which would definitely not be Egyptian gods or idols. If these were idols or false gods he clearly could not of used that scripture in his defense, only an authentic true law stating that his claim was correct and that they had no claim of blasphemy against him according to the law.
5Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus:
6Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God
1 John 3:2
2 Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.
And what does God call his Son...
8 But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.
- 9 years ago
simply a bad translation. the word "elohim" in that psalm should not be translated as "gods", it should be translated as "judges" or "magistrates" or something similar. the word elohim merely means "powerful ones" and while it usually refers to God specifically, there are a few occasions in the bible when it is more generalized and refers to other things, including human leaders. the context of the psalm makes it obvious that this is one of those occasions since the psalm is clearly talking about God criticizing human leaders for their unjust and corrupt dealings, and commanding them to act more justly and compassionately.
more accurate translation, JPS edition:
Psalm 82 - A Psalm of Asaph
1. God standeth in the congregation of God; among the judges He judgeth:
2. How long will you judge unjustly, and respect the persons of the wicked? Selah.
3. Judge the poor and the fatherless; do justice to the the afflicted and destitute.
4. Rescue the poor and the needy, deliver them out of the hand of the wicked.
no need to repost the whole psalm, but in any case, all you have to do is read it to see that the word elohim here is talking about human judges who are acting corruptly. "how long will you judge unjustly, and respect the persons of the wicked?" is kind of an obvious giveaway.
- sylvia cLv 79 years ago
Yes they are the same God, Christ was sent to be the Light of the world, therefroe there was no darkness in Him, as for Pharaoh and his gods he practiced cruelty towards the Israelites which also is within everyone who does not acknowledge that Christ is Lord and saviour.
- pegLv 44 years ago
The Psalm, it is given credibility via Jesus in John 10:34, talks approximately our household initiatives and tells us, in reality, that we are the offspring of God, that we've the aptitude to alter into like God, to enhance as much as be a god... yet... while tied to John 17, the great intercessory prayer of Jesus, wherein he prays that his followers will substitute into one, like he and the daddy are one, it extra substantiates the aptitude to alter into one with God, the substitute into heirs to the "kingdom"... yet... we are sons and daughters... we make blunders... we are discovering... and a few every person is very slow... and jealous, and envious, and possessive. If we don't impart of what we would desire to people who're much less fortunate, we can be like the wealthy youthful guy who asked Jesus what it might take to make it to heaven... And Paul placed it at the same time nicely -- in case you examine a million Corinthians 13, examine it to this (KJV): 3 look after the undesirable and fatherless: do justice to the bothered and needy. 4 furnish the undesirable and needy: rid them out of the hand of the depraved. (that's from Psalm 80 two!) All that pronounced, there are a number of denominations that deny the make sure-newborn relationship between God and mankind. They reject Psalm 80 two's message, alongside with the theory that a newborn can improve as much as substitute into like the make sure. In mortality, transforming into up in no way, ever alterations the blood relationship. the daddy of your physique will continuously be the daddy of your physique, in spite of what you regulate into. the relationship with God in no way alterations, the two, no remember what some would substitute into. TDs predicted from people who reject those recommendations.
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- AvondrowLv 79 years ago
Probably different. Many scholars accept that there are at least two sub-texts in the OT, one presenting a Yawehist viewpoint, the other a Elohimist, or pantheist theology.
- Anonymous9 years ago
During Old Testament times, people believed that there was more than one God. Eventually religion started preaching thatthere was but one God.
- Stephanie FLv 79 years ago
There Is only one God. He doesn't want us to worship others as Gods, because there is no other God.
- Anonymous9 years ago
The same, just different writers speaking for that imaginary god.
- AbbaLv 69 years ago
That is God both singular and as a title so should be capitalized and yes.
- Anonymous9 years ago
They are basically the same illusion.