Jehovah Witnesses, is Jesus a legitimate God or one of the False gods the bible talks about?
With answering please don't tell me Jesus is a real legitimate god but not the God, because Isaiah 43:10 specifically says no god before or after me. Anybody in the bible that was given the title god (lowercase g) was not a real god, look it up you'll see. Why do Jehovah's witnesses giving their thoughts and feelings. One person says Jesus is a representative another says Jesus was never worshiped. Do they even look at the greek? Do they ever wonder why the new world translation changes worship to obeisance only when referred to Jesus but when referred to God, the devil, and man its still worship. They keep saying look at the bible in context but you look it up not in what the new world translation says because that's what the watchtower says. Look it up in the greek and go to google translate and then see what it says. Or is google the devil to?
Only God is our Savior (Isa 43:11)
Jesus is our Savior (Tit 2:13; 2 Pet 1:1)
God is our only Rock (Isa 44:8, Ps 18:2, 94:22)
Jesus is our Rock (1 Cor. 10:4)
Only God can forgive sins (Luke 5:21)
Jesus forgives sins (Luke 5:20)
God is our owner (Isa. 54:5)
Jesus is our only owner (Jude 4)
God is the horn of salvation (2 Sam 22:3)
Jesus is the horn of salvation (Luke 1:68-69)
Paul is a slave of God (Tit 1:1)
Paul is a slave of Jesus (Rom 1:1)
No man can slave for two masters (Mat 6:24)
God is the King of Israel (Isa 44:6)
Jesus is the King of Israel (Mat. 27:42, John 1:49)
God is a stone of offense and a stumbling block (Isa 8:14)
Jesus is a stone of offense and a stumbling block (1 Pet 2:8)
God was valued at 30 pieces of silver (Zech 11:12-13)
Jesus was valued at 30 pieces of silver (Mat 26:14-16)
To God, every knee will bow and tongue confess (Isa 45:22-23)
To Jesus, every knee will bow and tongue confess (Phil 2:10-11)
Please show me in scripture not your thoughts and/or watchtower theology!
- Coral TaxiLv 610 years agoFavorite Answer
Umm Jesus is Lord.
John 1:1 says that “the Word was God.” John 1:14 says that “And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us” This clearly indicates that Jesus is God in the flesh. Acts 20:28 tells us, "...Be shepherds of the church of God, which He bought with His own blood." Who bought the church with His own blood? Jesus Christ. Acts 20:28 declares that God purchased the church with His own blood. Therefore, Jesus is God!
U kow it.This they can not deny. Word Up!!
- 10 years ago
JW's are so wrong in there interpretations anyone can see that David who wrote most of the Psalms is talking about Jesus. When he says my God, thy God, he calls Jesus his God and then says your God meaning the God of Jesus. Then Hebrews just shows that. We believe in One God in Three persons, therefore this scripture just shows that both are God. Nice try though. Why do people think that the more they talk the more sense they make it took that guy like 2 or 3 pages to explain himself and/or watchtower beliefs.
- ΤιμοθέῳLv 510 years ago
This is a good question, and Jesus is the True God but the JWs want to make Him into neither a True God nor a false god! They will only say He is Mighty God who is a god in John 1:1c in the NWT, but other than that, He lands into this other type of god that does not exist!
The JWs' refusal to clearly give Jesus any kind of godship whether True or false while their Bible says otherwise shows they are on the wrong path!
- bramhallLv 44 years ago
specific, our God Jehovah is real, no rely in case you think in Him or no longer. there is extra desirable data for Jehovah than there is against. what's fairly stupid is people who have faith the loads of thousands of diverse species and the intricacies of human DNA got here approximately "by twist of destiny", that some fluke electric powered spark in a random plop of primordial ooze would ultimately "evolve" to create people like Da Vinci or Mozart. I see the fingerprint of Jehovah in each and every component of advent... from the smallest of atoms to the appropriate of galaxies. by the way, have you ever observed the plain similarity between those 2 extremely distinctive arenas (atoms and galaxies)? comparable template, diverse use. That blatantly speaks of a author that I fairly have become attentive to as Jehovah.
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- 10 years ago
You can't change a JWs mind about anything. They interpreted using the KJV that Jesus is not a god and that's what matters to them.
- ?Lv 510 years ago
Hooray For You, keep up the good works.Apparently they don't have Isaiah 9:6 in their book.
- Anonymous10 years ago
EVERY Trinitarian "proof text" and argument requires an ignorance of Scriptural terms, context and grammar. Every verse Trinitarians cite requires that an interpretation be "read into" the scripture which contradicts the context of Biblical teaching regarding God and Christ. They must continue to use such texts because there is not one clear verse in the whole bible that supports the teaching that Jesus is equal to Almighty God.
Because all Trinitarian arguments rely on a presupposition of their theology they are eisegesis, not exegesis. The verses in this question demonstrate this fact and have repeatedly been proved to be invalid even on this forum. These Trinitarian arguments only convince those who don't bother to do the simplest of research.
For example, the very basis for this questioners interpretation is fallacious and demonstrates the credulity that Trinitarian's demand of their hearers:
The claim that outside of Almighty God anyone who “was given the title god was not a real god” and thus must be a false God requires an extreme ignorance of God’s Word.
This is because the original words for "God" (ELOHIM/QEOS) were not used as an exclusive title for Almighty God in the Bible. Humans and angels were PROPERLY called “God” without making them equal to Almighty God (Ex. 4:16; 7:1; Ps. 8:5; 82:1,6; Jn.10:34; 2Cor.4:4; etc.).
It was Jehovah himself who called these angels and humans "gods."
This does not put these individuals down on the same level as false gods who are called QEOS/god, nor up on the same level as The Almighty God. This is because the sense of "god" is relative. Any Bible dictionary will give you the same meaning of the word "God" (ELOHIM/QEOS) that Strong's Lexicon does: "great, mighty ones, rulers, judges, divine ones, angels."
BDB Hebrew lexicon: "a. rulers, judges, either as divine representatives at sacred places or as reflecting divine majesty and power. b. divine ones, superhuman beings including God and angels." See Thayer's and BAG Greek Lexicons.
The term "god" simply means someone who is over others in some capacity. Obviously these true servants of God could not be called "false" gods. If the Trinitarian reasoning were correct then it would mean that Moses, King David, and the righteous angels were “false” Gods even though Jehovah God designated them Gods!
A good example of where someone is called “God” and yet cannot be termed a “false” God is Ps.45:6.
The NET Bible’s footnote says: "Ps 45:6 addresses the Davidic king as "God" because he ruled and fought as God's representative on earth...When the king's enemies oppose him on the battlefield, they are, as it were, fighting against God himself."
The footnote in the NAB says: "the Hebrew king was called ELOHIM, ‘God' not in the polytheistic sense common among the ancient pagans, but as meaning ‘god-like,' or, ‘taking the place of God.'”
Now, if Trinitarians want to insist that EVERYONE else who “was given the title god was not a real god” and thus must be a false God, then what do they do when this very verse is applied to Christ at Heb. 1:8,9?!!!
If the Psalm is speaking of a “false God” then how on earth can it be applied to Jesus?!!
However, both the Psalm and Hebrews show that two Gods can be referred to: "Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever. ... therefore, thy God hath anointed Thee." The King is called "god" yet he manifestly has a greater God--the Almighty-- over him.
The fact that Heb. 1:8,9 applies Ps.45:6 to Christ demonstrates that Christ is only called "God" in a lesser sense:
"But, to be sure, already in the Old Testament...the noun "god" is actually used of men. Psalm 45:6 provides a significant example, because here the GREATER AND LESSER SENSES OF THE SUBSTANTIVE "GOD" appear side by side, namely, "God" in the usual sense of the supreme God of Israel and "god" denoting the person of Israel's king. Furthermore, this same passage appears in Hebrews 1:8 as a testimonium related to Christ, where it is "god" in its LESSER CONNOTATION in the original."—Jesus as "Theos" in the New Testament, G. H. Boobyer
So when Hebrews applies Ps.45:6 to Jesus it clearly limits Christ being called "God" to a representative sense and in a position less than Almighty God. This is because it states that Jesus still has a God over him: "therefore God, your God, has set you above your companions." ALMIGHTY God cannot have a God! Yet Jesus has a God over him at every period of his existence (Mic.5:4, Jn 14:28; 20:17; Rom.15:6; 1Cor 15:28; Rev.3:12).
In fact, EVERY TIME Jesus is called "god" in the Bible the context always shows that he is separated from and less than the Eternal, Almighty God.
Only by keeping people in ignorance of these facts can Trinitarians continue to twist these scriptures to mean what they want.
BAR-ANERGESSource(s): Notice I referenced non-Witness and Trinitarian scholars! For my response to some of your other misinterpretations: http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=201103...